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(02-16-2015, 02:06 PM)FAHQTOO Wrote: [ -> ]I don't know how to post a link from my phone, but the coroner ruled her death as a homicide today.

This one happened last week too, but I just saw it linked from another article today. More negligent parents killing their kids.

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^ Alexis Mercer, from Louisiana, was 3-years-old.

Her dad was home alone cleaning his guns. When he left for work, he left the guns lying about unsecured.

Shortly thereafter, Mrs. Mercer came home with Alexis, and her two siblings -- ages 1 and 2.

Alexis picked up one of the guns and shot herself in the face. She was rushed to the hospital where she was pronounced dead.

"It makes me angry. It makes my heart hurt. It's just something that shouldn't happen. This is a moment as a sheriff that I have to tell people, 'You have got to protect our children,''' Mancuso said.

Every gun sold in the state comes with a lock, the sheriff Mancuso said. People should use them. The solution, he said, couldn't be simpler. Lock your guns. Or put them in a lock box.

The local prosecutor's office is investigating the shooting death.


RIP Alexis Mercer.

Ref: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national...-1.2113455
(02-19-2015, 09:14 PM)Duchess Wrote: [ -> ]Anderson is reporting that the "victim's" family has changed their story again. They know the young man who shot her, he had been a guest in their home many times.

I don't trust what the Meyers family says at all anymore.

Now, they claim that the men in the silver sedan cut off Mrs. Meyers and her daughter that night and some 6-foot-tall guy got out of the sedan and threatened them.

And, in what's probably an ass-covering attempt for the son, they say that the son told his mom to call 911 but she refused and said she would go find the guys by herself if he didn't join her. Ref: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cops-son-tol...r-suspect/

This was related to some ongoing dispute, not a road rage incident, in my opinion. And, if she'd been threatened, Mrs. Meyers should have called the police, whether her son really told her to or not.

(Note: the suspect in custody is 19; I incorrectly posted 22 upthread)
Sounds like mom was an over the top shit talker that got her alligator mouth in gear and got her hummingbird ass shot off. Shame she is dead, but to me the whole thing sounds like she and her son initiated the thing, then pursued it armed and got what they were looking for. Shades of the big Z
Killing Kids with Negligence and Irresponsible Gun Ownership -- By the Numbers
--4 days
--3 Kids
--Ages 3, 4, and 6
--All in 1 County (Harris, Texas)


Unbelievable...

On Friday, a 3-year-old died after he shot himself in the neck while playing with a gun at home. His mother was in the next room when she heard the shot go off.

On Sunday, 4-year-old Codrick McCall, Jr. shot and killed himself with a gun he found at a relative's house. The boy, who was being watched by a babysitter at the time, had been placed at the home by Child Protective Services.

On Monday, a 5-year-old fatally shot his 6-year-old brother at their house. The boys' uncle, Thomas Gray, told the Houston Chronicle the children's parents were generally very careful about keeping their guns safe. He added that it's possible the boys mistook the gun for a toy. 52

Yesterday a press conference was held. The Sheriff's Office and Harris County Constable Ron Hickman reminded the public that their offices distribute free gun locks. "If we can prevent one person from being killed or hurt from firearm accidents through the distribution of these free gun locks, then we have met our challenge," Hickman said in a statement Monday.
Jesus
(03-03-2015, 08:41 PM)SIXFOOTERsez Wrote: [ -> ]Jesus

It's insane (and worse) that people leave loaded guns in homes with little ones.

On Tuesday, a 1-year-old was shot in the head (by a bullet fired from a .25-caliber automatic pistol). Fortunately, he is still alive and conscious in a Nashville hospital.

His 3-year-old brother is the shooter.

Police are interviewing the parents. No charges filed at this point.

Story: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/tennessee-bo...-the-head/
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As these senseless shootings continue, I'm starting to see more LEOs encouraging gun owners to take advantage of free gun locks and advocating for safety storage laws.
How about while they're encouraging people to get the locks for their guns, they slap some cuffs on them and charge them with child neglect and child endangerment?

So sick of reading about these senseless tragedys because of stupid parents/guardians.
I have Still never seen a public service message about gun safety at home.
Granted I don't watch much regular tv, but Damn, how about a billboard, magazine add, airplane towing a sign, message on the goodyear blimp....
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Follow-up to post #1497


Peachtree, Georgia Police Chief William McCollom shot his wife in the back, back on New Year's Day. He said he was sleeping in their bed, he went to move the gun, and it just went off.

His wife Margaret survived and later reportedly told police that she didn't think he meant to shoot her. Then, the story disappeared from the national news.

Today, Griffin Judicial Circuit District Attorney Scott Ballard said he plans to ask a grand jury to charge McCollom with reckless conduct. When asked why he did not seek a stronger charge Ballard said there is not enough evidence to show McCollom intended to shoot his wife.

McCollom resigned today - stating, "I have had had two families in Peachtree City - my police family and my personal family. In light of the recent tragedy in my personal family, I need to continue to focus my time and efforts there."

I'm glad he's at least being charged with something (and I'm curious whether his wife is living under the same roof with him).
More of the same careless bullshit. None of my guns are that touchy, you have to pull the trigger on purpose.
You have a gun that is that touchy its something you Know about.
So you have a touchy gun, Of course the wisest thing to do is keep it under your pillow
According to the latest news report, McCollom's wife is in a spinal rehab center. The shooting has left her paralyzed from the waist down. :(

The report also indicates that McCollom admitted to investigators that he had been drinking and taking sleeping medication that night. He was then awoken by barking dogs, picked up his Glock 9mm service revolver, and checked the house. When McCollom returned to bed, he placed the gun under the sheet.

A forensic analysis confirmed that the gun had been fired from under the sheets and a wound on MCollom's right hand confirmed that his palm blocked a spent shell from leaving the gun.

The DA said investigators found no evidence that McCollom intended to harm his wife Margaret. However, the prosecutor said the shooting could have been avoided. The "reckless conduct" charge the grand jury is considering is a misdemeanor.
I agree with the prosecutor. A nightstand is a way more appropriate place to put your piece than in the bed with you
(03-05-2015, 08:36 PM)SIXFOOTERsez Wrote: [ -> ]I have Still never seen a public service message about gun safety at home.
Granted I don't watch much regular tv, but Damn, how about a billboard, magazine add, airplane towing a sign, message on the goodyear blimp....

You never see the NRA safety courses in school nowadays. We used to have to take them and I don't remember any kids getting shot when I was a kid or a teenager.
(03-16-2015, 10:53 PM)crash Wrote: [ -> ]

Some of his bit had me laughing out loud.

The part about the seething 10% had me shaking my head in recognition.

I didn't agree with all of Jeffries' points, but I thought many of them were just plain common sense that seemed even more obvious when presented through humor.

He's a funny guy...with a strong opinion.
(03-17-2015, 01:12 PM)Maggot Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-05-2015, 08:36 PM)SIXFOOTERsez Wrote: [ -> ]I have Still never seen a public service message about gun safety at home.
Granted I don't watch much regular tv, but Damn, how about a billboard, magazine add, airplane towing a sign, message on the goodyear blimp....

You never see the NRA safety courses in school nowadays. We used to have to take them and I don't remember any kids getting shot when I was a kid or a teenager.

My point exactly.
There is a tag on the hair dryer says don't use it in the shower, theres a label on plastic buckets says not to leave water in it and have kids play with it so they don't drown, There is a label on my dry cleaning bag says not to let kids play with it so they don't smother. Messages all over the place about texting and driving, drinking and driving, Kids on board, buckle up its the law.....
So WTF?
Seems to me that a few inexpensive messages might get through to some folks. And if you follow the "All Snow Flakes Are Precious" philosophy even saving 1 is worth the effort.
(03-16-2015, 10:53 PM)crash Wrote: [ -> ]
The only part of this bit I hadn't heard before was the massacre portion. Everything else is someone else's material.
Yea, they all seem to be riffing on the same stuff "No one is going to kill you, your paranoid"
He apparently does not read the paper very much
(03-17-2015, 02:51 PM)Blindgreed1 Wrote: [ -> ]The only part of this bit I hadn't heard before was the massacre portion. Everything else is someone else's material.

Bullshit..
There's really nothing new to say when it comes to gun control. Those who oppose it always use the same arguments, and those who support it always do too.

The whole point of Jeffries' bit was to mock what's already been said over and over... I thought the way that Jeffries depicted the pro-gunners in his role as an anti-gunner was funny, myself.

Of course, his gun control piece wasn't nearly as clever and original as some of the other bits of comedy gold posted up around here recently. I mean, who would have thought that farts and shit could be turned into humorous subjects. Awink (I generally hate that stuff, but sometimes that same old shit can still make me laugh.)

As for gun safety labels and NRA courses in schools, okay. But, case after case of babies and toddlers being injured and killed have been posted in this thread; babies and toddlers living in the homes of so-called "responsible safety-trained" adults. There have also been more than a couple of stories about police officers, some of them firearms trainers, shooting themselves and others; shootings which would have been prevented had these firearms experts practiced the basics of what they'd been taught and what they'd taught others. So, I don't personally think a gun safety label like those found on hair dryers and classes teaching 5th graders how to hold guns properly would result in many fewer accidental or negligent shootings, especially not the latter. But, maybe Jeffries can work those suggestions into his next bit...