Yeah one foot long chilli dog at a time it seems.
(05-29-2013, 12:02 PM)Adub Wrote: [ -> ]http://www.gzdefensefund.com/donate/inde...t-of-money
Zimmerman Defense Fund Out Of Money
If you believe that George acted properly in self-defense; if you feel he is being wrongly prosecuted; if you feel that George deserves a fair trial, please consider sending one last donation. Even the smallest donations of $5.00 and $10.00 are significant when multiplied by the thousands who contribute.
We hope that on the eve of trial, in our time of greatest need, many of those who have supported us will support us again, and that many of those who have considered supporting us will do so now. One way or another, the defense is committed to getting George to a not-guilty verdict, but it sure will be easier with your help.
Looks like the defense might just raise the $120k they're pandering for by trial start, if the donations continue at the same daily rate.
George Zimmerman's attorneys say they raised more than $12,000 in the 24 hours after announcing their defense funds were running dangerously low.
http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/05/30/...ds?hpt=ts1
It will be the gun nuts and NRA members who will be donating the lions share of the cash.
Actually CN, Sally told me that her neighbors brothers friend told her old hair stylist's daughter that it was you that donated most of the money.
(05-30-2013, 03:41 PM)ramseycat Wrote: [ -> ]Actually CN, Sally told me that her neighbors brothers friend told her old hair stylist's daughter that it was you that donated most of the money.
There really is no level you won't stoop to to try and score a few petty points is there you sad bitch? This is a serious thread about a teenager being shot and killed you sick freak, go peddle your trivial shit somewhere else.
You have no sense of humor at all CN. lol
(05-30-2013, 03:58 PM)ramseycat Wrote: [ -> ]You have no sense of humor at all CN. lol
Not in a serious thread about the tragic shooting of an unarmed teenager I don't no you dim bulb.
(05-29-2013, 03:46 PM)Duchess Wrote: [ -> ]
He's eating his pain. 
The talking heads on HLN are speculating today that the weight gain could really hurt Zimmerman because he's so large and gives off the image that he couldn't be pushed around.
I think he looks unhealthy and slow, like someone who could easily be outmaneuvered.
O'Mara is using it to claim that George is so victimized by his circumstances that he's overeating due to emotional stress. And, George gets no exercise since he's trapped inside because people call him such vile names; he's in fear for his life.
Hopefully, this jury will be sensible enough that the weight won't affect them one way or the other. They'll only view him as he was the night that he killed Trayvon.
On another note: The hearing scheduled for tomorrow, to consider keeping the jury anonymous, has been cancelled.
In this case, I do hope the sequester is granted and don't object to anonymity for jurors who desire it. Very interested to see how Judge Nelson rules on the jury issues.
Like you give a shit. Stop with the fake sympathy CN.
I'm done with you. You're stuffy, boring, and a liar.
(05-30-2013, 04:19 PM)ramseycat Wrote: [ -> ]Like you give a shit. Stop with the fake sympathy CN.
I'm done with you. You're stuffy, boring, and a liar.
You are “done” with me? Praise be to jebus! You won't be quoting me or replying to me or interacting with me anymore in anyway shape or form from now on I hope? Yeah right just go away and keep your trivial shit out of this thread.
Interesting points made about Zimmermans appearence it could serve in his favour or could serve to his detriment.
What do we know about the physical height/weight comparison between Z and T and the time of the shooting? Was Z truly intimidated by T physically?
Even if a teenager was bigger and heavier than me I would still like to think I could defend myself effectively against him without putting a cap in his ass using savvy and experience.
I know this was posted somewhere pretty early in the thread but it was good, for me, to listen to it again. At one point I believe George says "he ran". Obviously a kid trying to get away from his pursuer.
(05-30-2013, 05:01 PM)Cynical Ninja Wrote: [ -> ]What do we know about the physical height/weight comparison between Z and T and the time of the shooting? Was Z truly intimidated by T physically?
Physical Attributes in February 2012
Trayvon Martin:
17 ys old
5'11"
158 pounds
George Zimmerman:
28 ys old
5'7"
185 pounds
........
Trayvon's age:
If you listen to the initial 911 call that username reposted, you'll hear that George estimated Trayvon's age as "late teens" to the dispatcher. He was right.
Yet, at his first bond hearing, he apologized to the Martin family and told them that he thought their son was only "a little bit younger than I am".
That's one of the reasons it rubs me the wrong way when people jump all over the Martin family because some younger photos of Trayvon were released.
Even if the younger photos were intended to drive home the point that Trayvon was a minor, George was also making statements trying to convince people (including Trayvon's own parents) that he thought Trayvon was much older than his true age of 17, which was clearly deceitful.
The jury only needs to know the facts: Travyon was 17 and George knew that he was a teen; George Zimmerman was 28.
Regarding the Jury
-It will be a 6 person jury.
-Judge Nelson announced today that she wants 4 alternates (there are typically 2 alternates for Second Degree Murder trials); she's being cautious on this one.
-Judge Nelson chastised the defense attorneys on Tuesday for telling media that the jury would be sequestered when she hadn't signed-off on that request; that decision is still pending.
(05-30-2013, 04:18 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: [ -> ] (05-29-2013, 03:46 PM)Duchess Wrote: [ -> ]
He's eating his pain.
The talking heads on HLN are speculating today that the weight gain could really hurt Zimmerman because he's so large and gives off the image that he couldn't be pushed around.
I think he looks unhealthy and slow, like someone who could easily be outmaneuvered.
O'Mara is using it to claim that George is so victimized by his circumstances that he's overeating due to emotional stress. And, George gets no exercise since he's trapped inside because people call him such vile names; he's in fear for his life.
Hopefully, this jury will be sensible enough that the weight won't affect them one way or the other. They'll only view him as he was the night that he killed Trayvon.
On another note: The hearing scheduled for tomorrow, to consider keeping the jury anonymous, has been cancelled.
In this case, I do hope the sequester is granted and don't object to anonymity for jurors who desire it. Very interested to see how Judge Nelson rules on the jury issues.
GZ may be "eating his pain" but I don't buy that he can get no exercise trapped inside his home. They make treadmills, stairmasters, Bowflex etc... for just that reason.
The weight gain could help or hurt him depending on the size of the members of the jury IMO.
Hmmmm...I don't think I would be “physically intimidated” by someone who just 4 inches taller than me, who was ten years younger than me and who i had 30ilbs on.
Also zimmerman is contradicting himself, yet again, by reporting that Trayvon was a teenager at the time of the shooting then saying to T`s family he didn't think T was much younger than him.
(05-30-2013, 03:41 PM)ramseycat Wrote: [ -> ]Actually CN, Sally told me that her neighbors brothers friend told her old hair stylist's daughter that it was you that donated most of the money.
I don't trust your grapevine ramsey, but somebody's donating.
The Zimmerman Defense Fund raised another $20k yesterday, bringing the total raked in to $32k in the 48 hours since O'Mara last solicited the public.
Altogether, since the shooting, Zimmerman's raised $350k via public donations to his defense fund. It astounds me.
If anyone's interested, here's how the money's been spent:
http://www.gzdefensefund.com/donate/inde...been-spent
(05-31-2013, 09:48 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: [ -> ]Altogether, since the shooting, Zimmerman's raised $350k via public donations to his defense fund. It astounds me.
It will be gun nuts, NRA members or people who hate black people.
Even more likely people with a combination of all three of those elements.
“The poor man who shot that no good nigger punk needs money for his court case! I'm gonna send them some dollars to keep that poor mans fat ass outta jail”
(05-31-2013, 09:48 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: [ -> ] (05-30-2013, 03:41 PM)ramseycat Wrote: [ -> ]Actually CN, Sally told me that her neighbors brothers friend told her old hair stylist's daughter that it was you that donated most of the money.
I don't trust your grapevine ramsey, but somebody's donating.
The Zimmerman Defense Fund raised another $20k yesterday, bringing the total raked in to $32k in the 48 hours since O'Mara last solicited the public.
Altogether, since the shooting, Zimmerman's raised $350k via public donations to his defense fund. It astounds me.
If anyone's interested, here's how the money's been spent:
http://www.gzdefensefund.com/donate/inde...been-spent
Thanks for the link HOTD. This is the one expense that made me giggle.
PayPal and Fund Management Fees -- $7,924.22
PayPal takes a fee for every online payment the Defense Fund receives, and the independent fund manager bills monthly for their services.
Edited to add ... I dont really understand the PP fee. I say that because often when making online person to person gun sales we cut PP out of the equasion by sending the $ as a gift. PP does not take a cut in those transactions. [and before anyone asks, YES the firearms are sent through the mail but they are sent to a FFL and ALL paperwork and BG checks are done]
The amount raised astounds me because I couldn't see myself donating to anyone's private defense fund when, as local and state tax payers, we already support public defenders and district attorneys.
On the other hand, dollars paid by Florida tax payers won't be going to defend George Zimmerman (but will support the state's prosecution). So, essentially, only people who believe in his innocence (or at least believe he deserves a private defense) are footing the majority of his bill.
Is there a profit-motive, rather than just a cost-coverage motive? IDK. Assuming the fund is audited.
P.s. I'm seeing similar private defense donation strategies in lesser-profiled cases too.
