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(05-20-2012, 10:09 PM)shitstorm Wrote: [ -> ]I think all states should have open carry.

We gleaned that from your last post. Funny you restated it. hahahaha

(05-20-2012, 10:15 PM)Cracker Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-20-2012, 10:09 PM)shitstorm Wrote: [ -> ]I think all states should have open carry.

We gleaned that from your last post. Funny you restated it. hahahaha

Fair enough. I think we've gleaned from one of your posts how you feel about black people, yet you never let up. Don't get me wrong, you sometimes make me laugh and I sometimes agree, but you're a broken record.

(05-20-2012, 09:51 PM)Cracker Wrote: [ -> ]Or else you are a crazy bitch for stessing so hard over the one black kid in America not killed by another black kid. Like this one is better than the others.

This case is unique because of the mystery surrounding those few minutes and the stand your ground law. Your post makes it sound like it should be disregarded because he's just another black kid and black kids die all the time so what's the big deal?

Yes I know there's a larger problem but that doesn't make this case inconsequential IMO.

(05-20-2012, 10:43 PM)username Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-20-2012, 09:51 PM)Cracker Wrote: [ -> ]Or else you are a crazy bitch for stessing so hard over the one black kid in America not killed by another black kid. Like this one is better than the others.

This case is unique because of the mystery surrounding those few minutes and the stand your ground law. Your post makes it sound like it should be disregarded because he's just another black kid and black kids die all the time so what's the big deal?

Yes I know there's a larger problem but that doesn't make this case inconsequential IMO.

User all cracker said is if it was a black on black death, it would not make headlines.

If this is about the stand your ground law then I think it's a shame that Trayvons death is being used as a political tool and the people who would do that suck.

(05-20-2012, 10:56 PM)IMaDick Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-20-2012, 10:43 PM)username Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-20-2012, 09:51 PM)Cracker Wrote: [ -> ]Or else you are a crazy bitch for stessing so hard over the one black kid in America not killed by another black kid. Like this one is better than the others.

This case is unique because of the mystery surrounding those few minutes and the stand your ground law. Your post makes it sound like it should be disregarded because he's just another black kid and black kids die all the time so what's the big deal?

Yes I know there's a larger problem but that doesn't make this case inconsequential IMO.

User all cracker said is if it was a black on black death, it would not make headlines.

If this is about the stand your ground law then I think it's a shame that Trayvons death is being used as a political tool and the people who would do that suck.

Well, yeah if there hadn't been the initial uproar over (not) white guy profiles and shoots black kid it probably wouldn't (surely wouldn't) have gotten near as much attention. But it is what it is now and I find it riveting. And the bigger picture aside, we still have a teenager who was apparently followed and ended up dead. Race aside.

(05-20-2012, 10:56 PM)IMaDick Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-20-2012, 10:43 PM)username Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-20-2012, 09:51 PM)Cracker Wrote: [ -> ]Or else you are a crazy bitch for stessing so hard over the one black kid in America not killed by another black kid. Like this one is better than the others.

This case is unique because of the mystery surrounding those few minutes and the stand your ground law. Your post makes it sound like it should be disregarded because he's just another black kid and black kids die all the time so what's the big deal?

Yes I know there's a larger problem but that doesn't make this case inconsequential IMO.

User all cracker said is if it was a black on black death, it would not make headlines.

If this is about the stand your ground law then I think it's a shame that Trayvons death is being used as a political tool and the people who would do that suck.

Why not? It's certainly convenient. And look at the money that woman is going to make off all the trademarking after this shit gets settled.

Z is the best thing to ever happen to T's family. Period.

I hope that's sarcasm, Ma.

Sorry for the length, I am thinking out loud....

After reading several other sites, their comments AND their time frames (and the nice graph LC provided). Here are some FACTS that I know no one has brought up here. ONE – Martins father was NOT home, he was out for the night when this happened. NO idea what time he came home, that is not indicated. TWO – The screams on the 911 tape, I think everyone should listen again. After watching the video of George on the stand, listen to the 911 tapes. (Be aware that the father already indicated it was not his son). The mother did ONLY after the hit their media tour). The screams for help do in fact sound like George after hearing his voice in the courtroom. After hearing the actually facts about the case, listening to that 911 tape you can literally hear more of what is going on outside.
All the comments I read on MSNBC are outrageous. People that are starting rumors, people that are stating they live in the community, etc.
The facts are simple at this point, GEORGE DID in fact get out of the car the reason is simple because he thought he was helping his community because of the break ins. George DID get the shit beat out of him by Martin, BUT how did it start? Martin was a GUEST in this community, how did he know his way around like he did?
One more thing I would like to add, the video of Martin in 7/11, the pictures on twitter of him currently and the charges that he has been accused of recently. If you are a “profiler” for any type of case, which we have a lot of them for murders and assaults, he fits within the profile of a criminal / gangbanger. Does that make him deserve to die, NO, but does it mean that he is capable of hurting someone or jumping someone. Possibly.
It’s very easy for someone, who does not live or are involved with everyday criminals to say “Martin died he is the innocent victim”. If the person who died at the hands of another were ALWAYS the innocent victim, things would be a lot different.
No one can actually state as a FACT, that Martin did not JUMP George. OR that George started the fight with him. It was a gated community, people walk around. HOW DID Martin know this was not someone who was walking to his or her home? What was said or what was the exchange?
Because at this point the comment of “he jumped me” would mean that, he would have jumped anyone that was walking to their home that night.

(05-20-2012, 11:54 PM)username Wrote: [ -> ]I hope that's sarcasm, Ma.

Of course it is. This thing's been a rig since the event occurred. There's a whole lot of shit going on that hasn't been talked about. The whole "thug" aspect. The length of time to finally arrest and indict Z with the press acting like it was some sort of commencement ceremony, etc etc etc

btw, this photo isnt even martin, already been vetted yet it's still being waved like a flag.

Yeah, that kid is too skinny and was debunked early on.

It is a little bothersome to me that they went about scrubbing T's online activity... deleting his twitter account... deleting images from his facebook profile... and then releasing images that in no way resemble the young man he had become.

I know when I saw that 7-11 video for the first time, I was stunned. The pictures shown and being painted of T were nothing like that.

Granted, it doesn't mean anything in the scope of what went down that night. But it sure is an indication of exactly what is going on behind the scenes as far as pushing a narrative goes.

Such a shame.

(05-20-2012, 10:56 PM)IMaDick Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-20-2012, 10:43 PM)username Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-20-2012, 09:51 PM)Cracker Wrote: [ -> ]Or else you are a crazy bitch for stessing so hard over the one black kid in America not killed by another black kid. Like this one is better than the others.

This case is unique because of the mystery surrounding those few minutes and the stand your ground law. Your post makes it sound like it should be disregarded because he's just another black kid and black kids die all the time so what's the big deal?

Yes I know there's a larger problem but that doesn't make this case inconsequential IMO.

User all cracker said is if it was a black on black death, it would not make headlines.

If this is about the stand your ground law then I think it's a shame that Trayvons death is being used as a political tool and the people who would do that suck.

Some good may come from this awful mess if it forces the Florida legislature to re-examine the SYG law.

I doubt very much that the legislature considered a scenario like this when they drafted the law. I also doubt that the Florida courts have had a chance to apply the law to a situation like this.

The two biggest problems with the law as applied here are the fact that both M and Z's proponents will claim each had the legal right to be where he was and that their proponents will claim each acted in self defense.

Conviction as charged, to a lesser offense or acquittal, I'll bet that the law gets changed in some fashion when the dust settles from this case.

(05-18-2012, 10:06 PM)username Wrote: [ -> ]I don't know if T ever ran towards Z.

Nor do I. However, it is my experience that one is not usually shot in the chest if they are running away from an attacker or pistol.

(05-21-2012, 04:50 PM)Sterling Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-18-2012, 10:06 PM)username Wrote: [ -> ]I don't know if T ever ran towards Z.

Nor do I. However, it is my experience that one is not usually shot in the chest if they are running away from an attacker or pistol.

Smart ass!

BTW, I don't rant, dammit!

(05-21-2012, 05:52 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: [ -> ]he's right User, smartass or not. haha

it was between point blank and 18". so T had to be in Z's face. or vice-versa.

I know but there's no denying Trayvon was walking or running away initially.

(05-21-2012, 04:50 PM)Sterling Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-18-2012, 10:06 PM)username Wrote: [ -> ]I don't know if T ever ran towards Z.

Nor do I. However, it is my experience that one is not usually shot in the chest if they are running away from an attacker or pistol.

QFT

(05-21-2012, 05:58 PM)username Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-21-2012, 05:52 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: [ -> ]he's right User, smartass or not. haha

it was between point blank and 18". so T had to be in Z's face. or vice-versa.

I know but there's no denying Trayvon was walking or running away initially.

How do we know this as FACT? As of right now the facts that have been released have not said either way.

We do know that he was on the phone with a person, at the same time frame. What actually was said could have been so many different things. EXAMPLE Johnny Clarke, how many different version of what was said on his last phone call were going around the rumor mill.

Well the call to the g/f aside, on the 911 call Z made he indicates he's following T, he sounds out of breath and then there's the "these assholes always get away" comment. Sounds like a pursuit (at that time) to me.

(05-21-2012, 06:36 PM)username Wrote: [ -> ]Well the call to the g/f aside, on the 911 call Z made he indicates he's following T, he sounds out of breath and then there's the "these assholes always get away" comment. Sounds like a pursuit (at that time) to me.

But this is your assumption of the night, not the actually events. I do understand what you are saying, and I can see how you have come to that conclusion. Its is just an assumption of the night, not the actually events that happened.

Just not to long ago everyone was assuming from word of mouth that George had no injuries, until photos were released. It will be very interesting to see how this all unfolds.