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(07-26-2012, 05:09 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: [ -> ]JustMe, thankyou so very much. you've been wonderful!

i did read however that big john was there. (?)

You are welcome.

Yes he WAS there---I changed my post---he wasn't there early this a.m.--sorry--my fingers got away from my brain
YourOtherLeft-----your post was much more eloquent than mine----great job!!
WTOL11 Facebook page.............tremendous amount of comments most of Cam's kin folk are on there, he has a cult following like he is some kind of guru hah Bullshit
(07-26-2012, 04:32 PM)Duchess Wrote: [ -> ]

Tell me they didn't use his cell phone records to PROVE he wasn't in the area. Did I read that right?

It sounds like they did and, it means fuck all, unless he made a call during those hours, with someone testifying they spoke with him, which never happened. The lack of activity between these two goons (if they usually phone texted a lot - IF) indicates (at least, to me) that they were together and busy doing something else.
(07-26-2012, 04:33 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: [ -> ]Pico, I forgot to ask what an Alford plea is.

BTK killer took one. you are not pleading innocent or guilty. but you make a deal and have to allocute in open court...tell all details of crime.
In an Alford Plea, the criminal defendant does not admit the act, but admits that the prosecution could likely prove the charge. The court will pronounce the defendant guilty.
similar to nolo contendere

Thanks. That's a good deal for victims' families and the state.
And now this......


An assistant to the warden at the Toledo Correctional Center in north Toledo confirms that shots were fired in the prison's parking lot just before 5 p.m. Thursday.

According to the assistant, a woman was exiting her car to visit an inmate at the prison when someone opened fire on her. Bullets hit her vehicle as well as a corrections officer's vehicle, but no one was injured.
(07-26-2012, 04:25 PM)NightOwl Wrote: [ -> ]misshmarie23, Can you let us know if Tiffany says anything on her FB Wall
about Cam and the news to-day? Did Tiffany say if Aaron testified?

this was posted last on her page tuesday
so i finally went and got my story out on stand for my dear friends i miss so much...johnny and lisa....thank god its finally over..!but everyone finally heard the entire story ...rip johnny and lisa may your souls lay to rest..!!!
followed by these comments from ppl....

Gabriel Beltran rip johnny n lisa u to will b missedTuesday at 3:51pm · LikeUnlike.
Jess Kyle Trip Maybe if u wouldn't have got caught up in so many lies on stand... U weren't no friend...Tuesday at 4:59pm via mobile · LikeUnlike.
Tyanne Fonseca I just don't understand why you hit the stand for them but you would not for your baby daddy when we all waz in the court roomTuesday at 8:49pm via mobile · LikeUnlike ·
1.Gabriel Beltran Wow i did nt no tht Yesterday at 11:47am via mobile · LikeUnlike.
Tiffany Williams ‎@ jess i dont even know wtf your talking about cuz aint no1 get caught in no lie dumb ass , wtf you dont know what your talking about....hahaha joke ass people speak on what you know da real,cuz you dont know what your talking about @ tyanne i had to go on the stand or i would of got contempt of court on a homicide cuz i was the last one to speak to him i was on the phone when they were there..to lomg of a story to explain but i dont understand y everyone so worried about me...mua fuckas dont even know what they speaking on...i cant go a day with out people in my ife...Yesterday at 2:05pm · LikeUnlike.
Tiffany Williams ife..!Yesterday at 2:05pm · LikeUnlike.
Jess Kyle Trip I do know what the fuck I'm talking about cause everybody and the fucken news said it u dumb ass... Get yo life together u didn't give a fuck about your baby daddy dying nor johnny and lisa your jus an ignorant young dumb hoe,, up knew what was goin on but u didn't want to call the police cause they had drugs in the house bitch get real!!!Yesterday at 3:08pm via mobile · LikeUnlike.
Gabriel Beltran I feel tht21 hours ago via mobile · LikeUnlike.
Tyanne Fonseca Tiff u no i no more then any1. So i no what im talkin bout


looks like were not the only one who dont believe her.
straub support group now about 30 people gathered off site near the courthouse. shock has worn off but the younger ones (lindsay, cousins, close friends of lisa) having a much harder time, however lindsay did pass around a pic of lisa that she keeps on her phone showing lisa in her apartments kitchen, wearing scrubs from school and holding a half gallon bottle of captain morgan with one leg raised like the captain on the bottle label and a huge, beautiful smile on her face. the lisa WE all knew. made everyone smile and completely changed the mood. so glad jeff, mary beth and lindsay have such a close support group to be with them right now. still waiting on a call from the court. the jury itself will decide how long they meet before deciding a verdict isn't imminent and ask to continue tomorrow. and so we wait...
(07-26-2012, 04:41 PM)Adub Wrote: [ -> ]So who thinks the State will appeal?

So far, they appear completely incompetent. It started with releasing the crime scene WAY too soon and ended with this fiasco.
(07-26-2012, 05:38 PM)shitstorm Wrote: [ -> ]It sounds like they did and, it means fuck all


I've wanted to howl like a dog ever since I read all they really had was a cigarette butt. Right now, at this moment in time, I think everyone involved with bringing this to trial should be certified as a retard too...

...and I'd like to include some of Ohio's media as well.
Thanks, Justme.....it was unbelievable to be in there for this. I enjoyed your post, too.
(07-26-2012, 05:42 PM)rotten_cotton Wrote: [ -> ]And now this......


An assistant to the warden at the Toledo Correctional Center in north Toledo confirms that shots were fired in the prison's parking lot just before 5 p.m. Thursday.

According to the assistant, a woman was exiting her car to visit an inmate at the prison when someone opened fire on her. Bullets hit her vehicle as well as a corrections officer's vehicle, but no one was injured.

Aaron Griffin is jailed there, thanks for info! keep us posted.
(07-26-2012, 05:00 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-26-2012, 04:06 PM)JustSayin... Wrote: [ -> ]I seem to remember the foreign currency info being out there. Because it was so odd to most people.

Post 523 page 38 on Feb 6, 2011 'Unknown' talked about the Iraqi dinars. A member 'Unknown' had information that was very revealing and I wonder if LC is able now to tell us more that 'Unknown may have told her at this juncture? LC, has Unknown been communicating with you through this trial and has 'Unknown' commented about this latest turn of events.? Are you able to disclose anymore info that 'Unknown' first told you in Feb 2011 that you could not post in open forum? I consider 'Unknown' like 'deep throat' in the Watergate investigation in that the information alone if openly shared might be used to identify the person IRL. Maybe the only answer you may able to tell us is if that info provided so early in this case was 'on the mark'.


Deep Throat is right! Unknown knew the duct tape was on tight.
Thanks mustang! My finger is getting sore from constantly reloading.
here it is Mustang.

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this has started a arguement on my facebook ppl are really sticking up for him ughh
(07-26-2012, 05:44 PM)Mustang Wrote: [ -> ]straub support group now about 30 people gathered off site near the courthouse. shock has worn off but the younger ones (lindsay, cousins, close friends of lisa) having a much harder time, however lindsay did pass around a pic of lisa that she keeps on her phone showing lisa in her apartments kitchen, wearing scrubs from school and holding a half gallon bottle of captain morgan with one leg raised like the captain on the bottle label and a huge, beautiful smile on her face. the lisa WE all knew. made everyone smile and completely changed the mood. so glad jeff, mary beth and lindsay have such a close support group to be with them right now. still waiting on a call from the court. the jury itself will decide how long they meet before deciding a verdict isn't imminent and ask to continue tomorrow. and so we wait...

We are waiting on Mock also and thanks for this update! I'm praying and my fingers are crossed.
(07-26-2012, 05:46 PM)Duchess Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-26-2012, 05:38 PM)shitstorm Wrote: [ -> ]It sounds like they did and, it means fuck all


I've wanted to howl like a dog ever since I read all they really had was a cigarette butt. Right now, at this moment in time, I think everyone involved with bringing this to trial should be certified as a retard too...

...and I'd like to include some of Ohio's media as well.

I second this one, and where's a retard smilie a big one!
[quote='misshmarie23' pid='271765' dateline='1343339633']
this has started a arguement on my facebook ppl are really sticking up for him ughh

Really appreciate you posts! So, glad you turned your life around. Keep it up!
(07-26-2012, 05:16 PM)imsuchawildflower Wrote: [ -> ]FOr those of you with facebook, Maytee's page is open to the public now...you can read for yourself.
https://www.facebook.com/maytee.vazquez?sk=wall

The Justice and Memory pages have been converted to that stupid timeline format and I don't see any posts. Does anyone else?
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