(02-20-2011, 01:35 AM)Countryside_Belle Wrote: [ -> ] (02-20-2011, 01:23 AM)Jane Wrote: [ -> ] (02-20-2011, 01:17 AM)Countryside_Belle Wrote: [ -> ]Snooping around Tiff's Myspace page....found who I believe to be her mom, (or an older woman type close to her)...(I won't link this woman, she hasn't been named.) I noticed this woman posing with Tiff and Donald's baby son, and she also has a photo of drug baggies with white stuff, and what looks to be dark heroin at her newly tattooed feet (says RIP Don/50) The caption reads :"Till my casket drops".
The most interesting part to me however, is something this woman said on her Myspace page. She said- "Blessed Be".
Wasn't this a statement "Tiffany" made here on Mock the other day? Does anyone else recall that statement by TW?
yes, that's her mother, IMO. I saw all those pictures too, but I can't remember if TW said "blessed be" the other night.. someone told her 'god bless', I believe, & I know she posted the same thing back, but I don't know the exact phrase.. wild shit!!
edited to add - she has over 7,000 friends, LOL
Just seems very curious to me that if word is that Tiff is a heroin dealer, kinda makes you wonder about mommy's role in her education about the dealings....considering the pictures of mom's Myspace.
Kinda sad to see all those people's pages. 
So much negativity, so much violence, so much death.
Kinda makes my heart hurt.
If anyone happens upon any Blessed Be statement from Tiff's Mock talk, let me know...thanks
oh, I
know what you mean
I don't have a 'Leave it to Beaver' family, but this shit really is sad, damn!
(02-20-2011, 01:53 AM)Methusala Wrote: [ -> ] (02-20-2011, 01:38 AM)Methusala Wrote: [ -> ] (02-20-2011, 01:29 AM)Wish.I.was.a.P.I Wrote: [ -> ] (02-20-2011, 01:27 AM)Methusala Wrote: [ -> ] (02-20-2011, 01:20 AM)Lady Cop Wrote: [ -> ]it's myspace. not facebook. at least the link i posted.
I am talking about her FaceBook page, not her MySpace page.
As of now, it is gone, gone, gone.
I'm on it right now...
That's very interesting. That means that she has singled me (and perhaps certain others) to be blocked from finding or viewing her page. Only motivation I can think of was my post in red type discussing the contention that she appeared to be having a conversation on FB at the same time someone claiming to be her was answering questions here on Mock; and in which I explained how important it was to preserve such FB pages as pdf.s and how to do it before they disappear.
Can you expand her comments on her Wall and then do a Print to PDF asap?
Must have been a fluke - it's back.
Ahh, paranoia!
Aww great, just as I was getting it ready for you. haha..you may have just spelled it wrong or somthing. Unfortunately there isn't much of anything new on it
(02-20-2011, 01:48 AM)Countryside_Belle Wrote: [ -> ] (02-20-2011, 01:38 AM)Methusala Wrote: [ -> ] (02-20-2011, 01:29 AM)Wish.I.was.a.P.I Wrote: [ -> ] (02-20-2011, 01:27 AM)Methusala Wrote: [ -> ] (02-20-2011, 01:20 AM)Lady Cop Wrote: [ -> ]it's myspace. not facebook. at least the link i posted.
I am talking about her FaceBook page, not her MySpace page.
As of now, it is gone, gone, gone.
I'm on it right now...
That's very interesting. That means that she has singled me (and perhaps certain others) to be blocked from finding or viewing her page. Only motivation I can think of was my post in red type discussing the contention that she appeared to be having a conversation on FB at the same time someone claiming to be her was answering questions here on Mock; and in which I explained how important it was to preserve such FB pages as pdf.s and how to do it before they disappear.
Can you expand her comments on her Wall and then do a Print to PDF asap?
Interesting indeed! Do I recall correctly someone else in previous posts saying the same thing about Aaron (AG/AP's) FB page?! Maybe they couldn't see his page for the same reason...?
Methu- did you speak directly to Tiff the other day here?
I think what we heard, was AG made his wall private, the other day...
Sorry I can't remember who posted it but whomever posted the link to the police scanner, I thank you but I curse you as I can't stop listening to it now!
(02-20-2011, 01:56 AM)Wish.I.was.a.P.I Wrote: [ -> ]Sorry I can't remember who posted it but whomever posted the link to the police scanner, I thank you but I curse you as I can't stop listening to it now!
hahaha! I hear ya! It's going here too
(02-20-2011, 01:23 AM)Jane Wrote: [ -> ] (02-20-2011, 01:17 AM)Countryside_Belle Wrote: [ -> ]Snooping around Tiff's Myspace page....found who I believe to be her mom, (or an older woman type close to her)...(I won't link this woman, she hasn't been named.) I noticed this woman posing with Tiff and Donald's baby son, and she also has a photo of drug baggies with white stuff, and what looks to be dark heroin at her newly tattooed feet (says RIP Don/50) The caption reads :"Till my casket drops".
The most interesting part to me however, is something this woman said on her Myspace page. She said- "Blessed Be".
Wasn't this a statement "Tiffany" made here on Mock the other day? Does anyone else recall that statement by TW?
yes, that's her mother, IMO. I saw all those pictures too, but I can't remember if TW said "blessed be" the other night.. someone told her 'god bless', I believe, & I know she posted the same thing back, but I don't know the exact phrase.. wild shit!!
edited to add - she has over 7,000 friends, LOL
TWs statement:
im not on here to argue with anyone i just thought id answer the questions every1 has been wondering about me,thank you everyone and have a blessed day.!
(02-20-2011, 01:35 AM)Countryside_Belle Wrote: [ -> ] (02-20-2011, 01:23 AM)Jane Wrote: [ -> ] (02-20-2011, 01:17 AM)Countryside_Belle Wrote: [ -> ]Snooping around Tiff's Myspace page....found who I believe to be her mom, (or an older woman type close to her)...(I won't link this woman, she hasn't been named.) I noticed this woman posing with Tiff and Donald's baby son, and she also has a photo of drug baggies with white stuff, and what looks to be dark heroin at her newly tattooed feet (says RIP Don/50) The caption reads :"Till my casket drops".
The most interesting part to me however, is something this woman said on her Myspace page. She said- "Blessed Be".
Wasn't this a statement "Tiffany" made here on Mock the other day? Does anyone else recall that statement by TW?
yes, that's her mother, IMO. I saw all those pictures too, but I can't remember if TW said "blessed be" the other night.. someone told her 'god bless', I believe, & I know she posted the same thing back, but I don't know the exact phrase.. wild shit!!
edited to add - she has over 7,000 friends, LOL
Just seems very curious to me that if word is that Tiff is a heroin dealer, kinda makes you wonder about mommy's role in her education about the dealings....considering the pictures of mom's Myspace.
Kinda sad to see all those people's pages.
So much negativity, so much violence, so much death.
Kinda makes my heart hurt.
If anyone happens upon any Blessed Be statement from Tiff's Mock talk, let me know...thanks
just off the top of my head, i think she said "god bless" twice somewhere around post #3188 around page 228, and then said "have a blessed day." somewhere around post #3266 around page 234.
(02-20-2011, 12:24 AM)purplepegasus Wrote: [ -> ] (02-20-2011, 12:23 AM)rotten_cotton Wrote: [ -> ] (02-20-2011, 12:09 AM)Jane Wrote: [ -> ] (02-19-2011, 11:55 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: [ -> ] (02-19-2011, 11:52 PM)Momforlife Wrote: [ -> ]can someone post her facebook page here. I tried to find it, but do you know how many tiffany williams there are on fb? Let me tell you... A lot!
http://www.myspace.com/dat1an_only
This may have been discussed, but that link will take you to her mother's myspace too, if you read the comments. I was like, whoa!
wow
Wow is right. What's with the baby bottle of purple stuff labeled "screw bangin". Now I see why Tiffany is so messed up. I see her hero is Jesus!
I think I've figured out what the purple stuff is in the baby bottle :O
She has a album R.I.P Big Moe who is a rapper, who has a song entitled Bang Screw so I looked up that term in Urban Dictionary & this is what I got....
use of codeine with promethazine cough syrup mixed with a soft drink, usually sprite, with a candy added, usually jolly ranchers. Made popular by Dj Screw, Big Moe
Refers to one who sips or "po's up" lean or
purple stuff on a regular basis. This term was popularized by the late legendary member of the Screwed Up Click Big Moe. It is usually associated with the Houston rap scene.
No clue why it's in a baby bottle though. Scary stuff!!
(02-19-2011, 07:34 PM)Inspector Gary Wrote: [ -> ]I have gone through many of the "friends" trying to figure out the gangs. I see several people posted that Donald and Aaron were Bloods. However, most of the language and info that I have seen by many of the other friends indicates that they were Crips.
Also, I found a picture on "Toledo Hoodz" FB page that appears to be Aaron, Ronald, Tiffany, and 2 others with the tag “1200WALBRIDGE DUBBLOCC.” Check it out and tell me what you think!!
Dom DeLuca: "Loc`d Out Crip 300 Western BkLOCC"
Mike Jaso (aka Ikey Trill Loc): "SOUTH END 300 WESTERN BLOCC LOCZ BITCH"
Mike Jaso: "Cruzin t da hood w my goon ap getin dis money smokein dis loud" ---Notice he mentions AP (Aaron)!
Jesse Vargas: Do ppl forget what happends to snitches..? it aint just stitches anymore!! January 30 at 4:22pm --same day as murder!!
In Vic Dominguez FB, I found a picture of a group of people with "Nuestra Familia" written across the picture. Unfortunately, this pic was small and became blurry when I enlarged it to try and make out some of the faces. So, does this indicate that Vic is part of the Nuestra Familia? If so, how do all these people from different gangs hang out together? This is what Vic posted on Johnny's online memorial:
February 08, 2011
JOHNNY ITS CRAZY THAT NIGHT OF WATCHIN THE PRO BOWL U TOLD ME VIC CALM DOWN LIFES TOO SHORT N TOMMOROW IS NEVER PROMISED TO ANYONE. I LUV U FOR THAT CUZ U WERE MY ONLY FRIEND THAT ALWAYS LOOKED OUT 4 ME N WANTED THE BEST 4 ME. IM GLAD U WAS MY NEIGHBOR N I GOT TO SPEND MY CHILDHOOD WIT U. N IM GLAD WE HUNG OUT LIKE WE DID THE LAST 2 WEEKS I HAD WIT U. I LUV U JOHNNY N GOD B WIT U N UR FAMILY. CLARKE FAMILY IM SO SORRY N ASK GOD TO GET U THROUGH THIS. I GUNNA MISS U CUBANO. U WAS LIKE A BROTHER. U WILL NEVER B FORGOTTEN JOHNNY BOY.
So, they grew up together in the same neighborhood and had just been hanging out together again for the 2 weeks before he was murdered. Hhmmm....
According to Bre (Vic's girlfriend) and Vic, they were with Johnny before he left to pick up Lisa from work.
"I`m Glad I Spent Part Of My Christmas W. The Two Of You. & Lisa , I`m Glad We Had That Talk The Weekend Before You Passed. & Johnny , I`m Glad I Got To See You Just A Few Hours Before You Passed. I`m SOO Sorry You Guys Had To Go Through That. Your Both Forever In Our Hearts. Love You Johnny. "Live Everyday Like It`s Your Last , Because Tomorrow Isn`t Promised" Rest In Peace Johnny Clarke & Lisa Straub ♥ (Bre Aiken RipJohnny)"
Does anyone else notice "I`m SOO Sorry You Guys Had To Go Through That" as being a strange thing to say?!?!?! If one of my friends were brutally murdered, I wouldn't think, I'm sorry that they HAD to go THROUGH that, it would be more like I can't believe this happened to them! Thoughts????
"When I spoke to his friends, the house he was at before he went to pick up Lisa from work where he had been playing his X-box Live, he told them, "I`m going to pick Lisa up from work. We`re going back to the house. We have people coming over. We`re going to shoot some pool." – Maytee on Jane Valez Mitchell
So, these are just a few of the notes that I have collected....
Good work, Inspector. That message on the day of the murder is quite chilling.
Yeah, I can't figure out that FB page with all of the different gangs. I would think these people would just as soon as kill each other as co-exist. I wonder who it was who took the photos and has that kind of access to rival gangs.
thanks, Catch22 & Zero! (for the TW blessing)
(02-19-2011, 07:43 PM)Jane Wrote: [ -> ] (02-19-2011, 07:31 PM)ToledoNative Wrote: [ -> ] (02-19-2011, 07:24 PM)Jane Wrote: [ -> ]If Tiffany's involved, then she'll be arrested eventually. Until LE names her a suspect or person of interest, I don't think she is one. For the life of me, I don't know why, IF she was involved in setting them up, she'd call someone & tell them what happened... If she's as 'street smart' as some say, then she'd have to know she shouldn't do that. All she would have had to do, is simply wait it out. Wait for LE to contact her, if they found her phone number on JC's cell records. All she had to do was sit tight & see if LE wanted to speak to her... THEN she could have simply said 'yes, I talked with him that night' & be done with it .... The bodies would have been found, another way, most likely by Lisa's parents, I guess, unless someone else was concerned about not seeing them around.
Tiffany making that phone call to her friend, really screwed her up, imo
Because if Tiffany was just on the phone with Johnny so she could get Johnny and Lisa out of the house so the house could get robbed, then she would want to know what really happened, so sthat he would know what story to tell police. It makes sense that she needed to let alot of time to lapse and then to get involved since records would show that she had talked to Johnny and Lisa last. She needed to make it look like she was trying to alert people that something happened. If she sat back and was idle, that would really make her look suspicious. But time is key. She had to let time lapse and then find out what really went down without asking the people who did it.
Why would she need to know anything?? She could simply tell LE , 'yes, I spoke with Lisa about getting on Facebook' ...hell, she could have made anything up, as far as that goes. Instead she PUTS herself at the scene, & I don't think it was intentional. I think she really wanted to get hold of Johnny, regarding drugs, so she makes up the story about meeting up w/them to play pool. She can't be very smart, or she woudn't have put herself at the scene. Her making the lapse in time, makes no sense to me.
She may have been there around the time the murders committed. Maybe someone saw her in the neighborhood, or driving, and needed to account for it. Hence the story about driving by.
I don't know but there are many possibilities.
I wouldn't trust a thing that comes out of her or Maytee's mouth, though.
(02-20-2011, 12:07 AM)Lady Cop Wrote: [ -> ]i think everybody should go read the rest of my forum, only 8 pages of interesting cases. heh
http://mockforums.net/forum-21.html
Well I sure admire you! I could not imagine taking on the job.
Is twaddle your Cat?
(02-20-2011, 02:03 AM)Freshbait78 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-20-2011, 12:24 AM)purplepegasus Wrote: [ -> ] (02-20-2011, 12:23 AM)rotten_cotton Wrote: [ -> ] (02-20-2011, 12:09 AM)Jane Wrote: [ -> ] (02-19-2011, 11:55 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: [ -> ]http://www.myspace.com/dat1an_only
This may have been discussed, but that link will take you to her mother's myspace too, if you read the comments. I was like, whoa!
wow
Wow is right. What's with the baby bottle of purple stuff labeled "screw bangin". Now I see why Tiffany is so messed up. I see her hero is Jesus!
I think I've figured out what the purple stuff is in the baby bottle :O
She has a album R.I.P Big Moe who is a rapper, who has a song entitled Bang Screw so I looked up that term in Urban Dictionary & this is what I got....
use of codeine with promethazine cough syrup mixed with a soft drink, usually sprite, with a candy added, usually jolly ranchers. Made popular by Dj Screw, Big Moe
Refers to one who sips or "po's up" lean or purple stuff on a regular basis. This term was popularized by the late legendary member of the Screwed Up Click Big Moe. It is usually associated with the Houston rap scene.
No clue why it's in a baby bottle though. Scary stuff!!
daaayuuuum! Someone drinking codeine & phenergan, would get extemely sleepy, eeeek! & then to add candy, or koolaid!? Sounds like a kiddie drink or something. And then add the baby bottle, Jesus Christ! Is it some mixture they put their babies to sleep with? I've heard it all now
(02-19-2011, 07:43 PM)ToledoNative Wrote: [ -> ] (02-19-2011, 07:34 PM)Inspector Gary Wrote: [ -> ]I have gone through many of the "friends" trying to figure out the gangs. I see several people posted that Donald and Aaron were Bloods. However, most of the language and info that I have seen by many of the other friends indicates that they were Crips.
Also, I found a picture on "Toledo Hoodz" FB page that appears to be Aaron, Ronald, Tiffany, and 2 others with the tag “1200WALBRIDGE DUBBLOCC.” Check it out and tell me what you think!!
Dom DeLuca: "Loc`d Out Crip 300 Western BkLOCC"
Mike Jaso (aka Ikey Trill Loc): "SOUTH END 300 WESTERN BLOCC LOCZ BITCH"
Mike Jaso: "Cruzin t da hood w my goon ap getin dis money smokein dis loud" ---Notice he mentions AP (Aaron)!
Jesse Vargas: Do ppl forget what happends to snitches..? it aint just stitches anymore!! January 30 at 4:22pm --same day as murder!!
In Vic Dominguez FB, I found a picture of a group of people with "Nuestra Familia" written across the picture. Unfortunately, this pic was small and became blurry when I enlarged it to try and make out some of the faces. So, does this indicate that Vic is part of the Nuestra Familia? If so, how do all these people from different gangs hang out together? This is what Vic posted on Johnny's online memorial:
February 08, 2011
JOHNNY ITS CRAZY THAT NIGHT OF WATCHIN THE PRO BOWL U TOLD ME VIC CALM DOWN LIFES TOO SHORT N TOMMOROW IS NEVER PROMISED TO ANYONE. I LUV U FOR THAT CUZ U WERE MY ONLY FRIEND THAT ALWAYS LOOKED OUT 4 ME N WANTED THE BEST 4 ME. IM GLAD U WAS MY NEIGHBOR N I GOT TO SPEND MY CHILDHOOD WIT U. N IM GLAD WE HUNG OUT LIKE WE DID THE LAST 2 WEEKS I HAD WIT U. I LUV U JOHNNY N GOD B WIT U N UR FAMILY. CLARKE FAMILY IM SO SORRY N ASK GOD TO GET U THROUGH THIS. I GUNNA MISS U CUBANO. U WAS LIKE A BROTHER. U WILL NEVER B FORGOTTEN JOHNNY BOY.
So, they grew up together in the same neighborhood and had just been hanging out together again for the 2 weeks before he was murdered. Hhmmm....
According to Bre (Vic's girlfriend) and Vic, they were with Johnny before he left to pick up Lisa from work.
"I`m Glad I Spent Part Of My Christmas W. The Two Of You. & Lisa , I`m Glad We Had That Talk The Weekend Before You Passed. & Johnny , I`m Glad I Got To See You Just A Few Hours Before You Passed. I`m SOO Sorry You Guys Had To Go Through That. Your Both Forever In Our Hearts. Love You Johnny. "Live Everyday Like It`s Your Last , Because Tomorrow Isn`t Promised" Rest In Peace Johnny Clarke & Lisa Straub ♥ (Bre Aiken RipJohnny)"
Does anyone else notice "I`m SOO Sorry You Guys Had To Go Through That" as being a strange thing to say?!?!?! If one of my friends were brutally murdered, I wouldn't think, I'm sorry that they HAD to go THROUGH that, it would be more like I can't believe this happened to them! Thoughts????
"When I spoke to his friends, the house he was at before he went to pick up Lisa from work where he had been playing his X-box Live, he told them, "I`m going to pick Lisa up from work. We`re going back to the house. We have people coming over. We`re going to shoot some pool." – Maytee on Jane Valez Mitchell
So, these are just a few of the notes that I have collected....
I'm from the same area in Toledo that Johnny and his friends are from. These kids change gangs like you change your underwear. This isn't Compton, it's a fake wanna be Detroit. Girls change depending on who they are dating, etc. Toledo is full of wanna be gang bangers and wanna be big time drug dealers. I'm not too surprised if they are claiming one set on one page and another the next week.
I'm wondering how you know all of this. You're too articulate to have been in a gang. What makes you think these people are wannabees? I lived in Long Beach & Los Angeles, rescued dogs in Compton and south central, and they look just like the dirtbags out there. Someone associated with this crowd just murdered Johnny & Lisa in a horrific and sadistic manner. That's doesn't sound like wannabees to me.
(02-20-2011, 02:19 AM)catch22 Wrote: [ -> ]aka purple drank
yeah, I looked it up. It's been around a long time! Basically, it's cough syrup mixed with sprite, & candy.. never heard of it, before .. I really feel old! What happened to smoking a bit of weed, & having a couple of beers?
(02-20-2011, 02:15 AM)Jane Wrote: [ -> ] (02-20-2011, 02:03 AM)Freshbait78 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-20-2011, 12:24 AM)purplepegasus Wrote: [ -> ] (02-20-2011, 12:23 AM)rotten_cotton Wrote: [ -> ] (02-20-2011, 12:09 AM)Jane Wrote: [ -> ]This may have been discussed, but that link will take you to her mother's myspace too, if you read the comments. I was like, whoa!
wow
Wow is right. What's with the baby bottle of purple stuff labeled "screw bangin". Now I see why Tiffany is so messed up. I see her hero is Jesus!
I think I've figured out what the purple stuff is in the baby bottle :O
She has a album R.I.P Big Moe who is a rapper, who has a song entitled Bang Screw so I looked up that term in Urban Dictionary & this is what I got....
use of codeine with promethazine cough syrup mixed with a soft drink, usually sprite, with a candy added, usually jolly ranchers. Made popular by Dj Screw, Big Moe
Refers to one who sips or "po's up" lean or purple stuff on a regular basis. This term was popularized by the late legendary member of the Screwed Up Click Big Moe. It is usually associated with the Houston rap scene.
No clue why it's in a baby bottle though. Scary stuff!!
daaayuuuum! Someone drinking codeine & phenergan, would get extemely sleepy, eeeek! & then to add candy, or koolaid!? Sounds like a kiddie drink or something. And then add the baby bottle, Jesus Christ! Is it some mixture they put their babies to sleep with? I've heard it all now
Right Catch!! I guess I'm getting old, I'd never heard of it. I know this is off topic but here's a link to an article & it mentions drinking it out of a baby bottle...
http://www.tncp.net/Articles/tabid/1800/...-City.aspx
I could have really used cliff notes for the 50 pages I had to read because I missed a few days.
After reading everyone comments..IMO.WIth careful consideration..Tiff is very much involved with this case. I know someone brought up this...Then why would she actually call put herself at the crime scene? calling the friend and trying to get ahold of Maytee?... MY opinion is...that she had to place the car she was driving at the scene at the time of the murder. Also...I believe that they wanted Maytee and the husband to find them for a message. Do I think she murdered them? NO..DO I think she knows more and is covering by making up the phone calls? HELL YES... DO I think the minor Z is involved...Hell Yes. Do I think it involved drugs... HELL YES..Do I think the preggers Tiff is a herion dealer? althought small potatoes because obviously she cant support herself. Hell Yes. Do I really think that Tiff was befriending Lisa Straub for a purpose? Yes... I truly believe also that Johnny probably knows that pregger Tiff got passed around like mash potatoes on Thanksgiving and probably warned LS to not be too good of friends with her. I think whoever did this was JEALOUS of that couple. Jealous because LS had great parents who were willing to help her and Johnny by living with them while they attended school and helping them change their lives. I mean why does Tiff live with the minor Z and his mother. WHY ISNT SHE LIVING WITH HER MOTHER and Why isnt she living with AJ...the boyfriend? WHY DOESNT SHE LIVE ON HER OWN? I mean she seems really happy to be pregnant to AJ but Hell it looks like he isnt going to be able to support her. SO really how happy is she really? Also I seen it time and time again... THE only chance she had to get help by the goverment and get some free education for medical coding was to get pregnant again. the other kids were taken so why not have another. We will probably find out in couple months that AJ isnt even the father nor is the minor Z. I am disgusted to think someone would encourage her to write a book. Also NOW NO FACEBOOK...you got to be kidding me. HOW WILL SHE LIVE WITHOUT GLORIFYING HER LIFE ON FACEBOOK FOR EVERYONE TO SEE. I mean she seems to glorify that she is widow for a man who basically ask to be killed by robbing someone...BUT HEY ALL THE GANSTA stuff is so cool, right? IMO she is lying about those phone calls and hopefully a detective will be able to catch her in the lie so that she finally tell the truth in what she knows. DO I also think AJ is involved? you better bet you ass I DO..if this guy was studying why would he have to take a lie detector test...just things that make you go..HMMMMMMMM interesting since you were at home studying... IMO of course
