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(03-12-2011, 12:50 AM)Nina Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-11-2011, 11:38 PM)Jane Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-11-2011, 02:02 PM)Miss Conspiracy Wrote: [ -> ]just wanted to say AG was very articulate and sounded very smart and reasonable talking to me.. I believe him more than Maytee.

thanks for posting this! It's unfortunate TW was the one that happened to be on the phone with Johnny, when this all went down. More & more I really believe it was simply coincidence.

May I ask what you are basing that belief on? Not saying you are wrong, it is possible they are not involved but they must know SOMETHING about what happened. Of course they are going to act all respectful and innocent if you ask AG or TW anything about it but look at the way they talk to their actual friends...... They repeatedly comment on "snitches" like they are the lowest life form just before the murders. They claim to be "friends" with Johnny & Lisa but don't even comment on their deaths....They do however say that they thought they were killed for being "snitches". How COINCIDENTAL that TW had been over there the night before (while AG, BC, & MM were on FB talking about revenge on snitches, etc) and then just happened to be on the phone with Lisa & Johnny when this went down.........

ON January 17:
AG: im takin bout DEVILS ...what is the world comin to.. niggaz n bitches get sweated n sell they soulz...what happened to al the thorough street niggaz n bitches U n U n U aint my round...DEVILS get up off me stupidddd

TW: aint no real niggas or bytchs left out here anymore u kno dat ...very few r left....

BC: that sum real live shit u never who or wen even tha closest turn bitch!aint 2 many real niggas left take it bacc 2 tha day n start bodyin these bitches is tha only way

TW to a girl talking to her man: i swear hoe i will slice ur throat bytch...bytch throw yoself away u fukin trashy ass bytch......cum get up wyt me..ill meet up wyt u..

January 28: BC: no mercy no matter what or who n im there fucc tha police

January 28 BC: play wit me n get wat ur lookin 4

January 28 BC: fucc tha police i ride 4 my niggaz south side no fakes stay away from my peoples n talk in front of tha rite ones cuzz they gunna get ya'll talkin crazy serious shit they waitin n im there! sssshhhhhhhhhhhhh!

January 28 BC: sout fuccin side family

MM replies: gga's don't realizes who the real nigga's are who been there getin money an now that we gone they think there hard...

January 29, BC posts TI song w/ these lyrics (partial) : :
You pussy niggas finna make me kill one a y'all
I still keep that thang right up under my shirt
Betta tell 'em I ain't playin'
because it's all fun and games until somebody get hurt

Alota pussy niggas talk like broads love runnin' they mouth
But then turn and run in they house
Put the gun in they mouth, tell a nigga talk shit now

I ain't scared of the law
naw I'm about to go to war what it is nigga win lose or draw
I'll never get caught murkin' y'all cuz it ain't what you do
It's what cha near and who saw
Protectin' her and you both hit
You betta check ya girl or you be so sick
If the choppa leave you with no dick
Or a plastic bag holdin' yo' shit


Pussy niggas betta act right, lay low we know where ya family live
Trust me you don't want me up in ya crib with a ski mask on duck tapin ya kids
You can pray all you want but I don't forgive
Ya shoulda been doin' that before ya did whatcha did

AG comments: hott shit cuzz. n i still keep that ayyy (gun) right up under my shirt

12 HOURS LATER JC & LS ARE KILLED. And AG's girlfriend just happens to be the one on the phone with them

No more talk of snitches from any of them for weeks after that. But BC (who is supposedly in Mexico) does post this song on FB:

February 1 (after the murders) BC posted this song. Here are some of the lyrics: :


a million ways to die you already chose one
we on the top now go back and tell the hook we winning
and while ya there let em know we did it just for them
I made them cough the cash up and left them jsut the phlegm

And then this song (partial lyrics):
Fuck the family of the victim
Witness that's snitchin ass hoes nigga


And then not much else from BC or MM because they are hiding in Kansas where Federal Marshals pick them up.......


Yes, these are very articulate young men that TW is a down ass bitch with. Poor unfortunate TW whose boyfriend just happened to be in prison with Johnny when he "snitched". Who just happens to be friends with BC and MM who are in custody for other robberies. That is an awful lot of coincidence..........

It sure is Nina
Hi Jane...It's driving us all crazy...Little "Vel" hasn't even touched her din din tonite.


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(03-12-2011, 12:50 AM)Nina Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-11-2011, 11:38 PM)Jane Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-11-2011, 02:02 PM)Miss Conspiracy Wrote: [ -> ]just wanted to say AG was very articulate and sounded very smart and reasonable talking to me.. I believe him more than Maytee.

thanks for posting this! It's unfortunate TW was the one that happened to be on the phone with Johnny, when this all went down. More & more I really believe it was simply coincidence.

May I ask what you are basing that belief on? Not saying you are wrong, it is possible they are not involved but they must know SOMETHING about what happened. Of course they are going to act all respectful and innocent if you ask AG or TW anything about it but look at the way they talk to their actual friends...... They repeatedly comment on "snitches" like they are the lowest life form just before the murders. They claim to be "friends" with Johnny & Lisa but don't even comment on their deaths....They do however say that they thought they were killed for being "snitches". How COINCIDENTAL that TW had been over there the night before (while AG, BC, & MM were on FB talking about revenge on snitches, etc) and then just happened to be on the phone with Lisa & Johnny when this went down.........

ON January 17:
AG: im takin bout DEVILS ...what is the world comin to.. niggaz n bitches get sweated n sell they soulz...what happened to al the thorough street niggaz n bitches U n U n U aint my round...DEVILS get up off me stupidddd

TW: aint no real niggas or bytchs left out here anymore u kno dat ...very few r left....

BC: that sum real live shit u never who or wen even tha closest turn bitch!aint 2 many real niggas left take it bacc 2 tha day n start bodyin these bitches is tha only way

TW to a girl talking to her man: i swear hoe i will slice ur throat bytch...bytch throw yoself away u fukin trashy ass bytch......cum get up wyt me..ill meet up wyt u..

January 28: BC: no mercy no matter what or who n im there fucc tha police

January 28 BC: play wit me n get wat ur lookin 4

January 28 BC: fucc tha police i ride 4 my niggaz south side no fakes stay away from my peoples n talk in front of tha rite ones cuzz they gunna get ya'll talkin crazy serious shit they waitin n im there! sssshhhhhhhhhhhhh!

January 28 BC: sout fuccin side family

MM replies: gga's don't realizes who the real nigga's are who been there getin money an now that we gone they think there hard...

January 29, BC posts TI song w/ these lyrics (partial) : :
You pussy niggas finna make me kill one a y'all
I still keep that thang right up under my shirt
Betta tell 'em I ain't playin'
because it's all fun and games until somebody get hurt

Alota pussy niggas talk like broads love runnin' they mouth
But then turn and run in they house
Put the gun in they mouth, tell a nigga talk shit now

I ain't scared of the law
naw I'm about to go to war what it is nigga win lose or draw
I'll never get caught murkin' y'all cuz it ain't what you do
It's what cha near and who saw
Protectin' her and you both hit
You betta check ya girl or you be so sick
If the choppa leave you with no dick
Or a plastic bag holdin' yo' shit


Pussy niggas betta act right, lay low we know where ya family live
Trust me you don't want me up in ya crib with a ski mask on duck tapin ya kids
You can pray all you want but I don't forgive
Ya shoulda been doin' that before ya did whatcha did

AG comments: hott shit cuzz. n i still keep that ayyy (gun) right up under my shirt

12 HOURS LATER JC & LS ARE KILLED. And AG's girlfriend just happens to be the one on the phone with them

No more talk of snitches from any of them for weeks after that. But BC (who is supposedly in Mexico) does post this song on FB:

February 1 (after the murders) BC posted this song. Here are some of the lyrics: :


a million ways to die you already chose one
we on the top now go back and tell the hook we winning
and while ya there let em know we did it just for them
I made them cough the cash up and left them jsut the phlegm

And then this song (partial lyrics):
Fuck the family of the victim
Witness that's snitchin ass hoes nigga


And then not much else from BC or MM because they are hiding in Kansas where Federal Marshals pick them up.......


Yes, these are very articulate young men that TW is a down ass bitch with. Poor unfortunate TW whose boyfriend just happened to be in prison with Johnny when he "snitched". Who just happens to be friends with BC and MM who are in custody for other robberies. That is an awful lot of coincidence..........


Yes indeed that is a lot of coincidences... I just believe this is bigger than TW/AG. If it had been them they would have been arrested by now. No way could they pull this off so cleanly with little to no evidence. I think TW & AG are more of wanna-be type thugs anyway. MM & BC on the other hand seem real, I'm more inclined to think they are involved rather than TW/AG. It's just my gut instinct/belief.
I agree with you notsure - what if John Sr. doesn't think it's AG - we never hear from John Sr. and I will never forget his sentence on t.v.
they better find the killer/s (meaning LE) before I do and I bloody believe him.


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Unless John Sr. is the more logical "ghost" writer that we see on some of FB posts...
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(03-12-2011, 12:50 AM)Nina Wrote: [ -> ]Yes, these are very articulate young men that TW is a down ass bitch with. Poor unfortunate TW whose boyfriend just happened to be in prison with Johnny when he "snitched". Who just happens to be friends with BC and MM who are in custody for other robberies. That is an awful lot of coincidence..........

I don't care about all those posts, by all those pussy thugs. That crap is on just about all of the 'players' FB accts. There's been others who rumored JC was a snitch, early on. AG being in prison with JC doesn't make me suspicious of him at all. Tiffany came across as clueless on that 911 call, IMO... Until there's real evidence of either of them being involved, I'm sticking w/coincidence. Maytee is the very first person to claim Tiffany was involved, & I don't believe a fuckin word out of her mouth. She's a fool; silly 'wannabe witch'. If this is how she acted around Johnny, growing up, then that boy never had a chance in hell.

All, just my opinion
(03-12-2011, 12:39 AM)JsMom Wrote: [ -> ]Dont be mad because I stand up for myself! I have never talked about NO ONES dead child....enough said

No one is mad because you're standing up for yourself. We are saying take it somewhere else. This is not about you and Maytee.
(03-12-2011, 01:08 AM)wanttoknow Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-12-2011, 12:39 AM)JsMom Wrote: [ -> ]Dont be mad because I stand up for myself! I have never talked about NO ONES dead child....enough said

No one is mad because you're standing up for yourself. We are saying take it somewhere else. This is not about you and Maytee.

I shouldn't have copied those postings on here... you're right it's not about them two. Funny thing is Maytee is still going on and on, on FB about JsMom. She desperately wants us to put it on here for her to read. Too bad I'm not gonna give that satisfaction and I don't think anyone else should! She's just talking to herself over there right now.
(03-12-2011, 01:08 AM)wanttoknow Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-12-2011, 12:39 AM)JsMom Wrote: [ -> ]Dont be mad because I stand up for myself! I have never talked about NO ONES dead child....enough said

No one is mad because you're standing up for yourself. We are saying take it somewhere else. This is not about you and Maytee....or Velveeta

Sorry 'wanttoknow'..I couldn't resist....Awink

(03-12-2011, 12:23 AM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote: [ -> ]As long as we abide by the Mock Rules we are free to post what we wish. We are free to post quotes from others. Freedom of speech is what its all about.


:agreed:



Love the new dog avatar nice job!




(03-12-2011, 12:27 AM)Jane Wrote: [ -> ]we NEED some news!!!! Any of you locals heard anything, in the last couple of days ??? kitty??

Yes, we need some 'new' news!

We got action! - I'm a lonely hag116

good night fellow Mockers!
Good Night Jane and NightOwl....see you tomorrow

zero
Nina, I agree with you... TOO many coincidences!! Awink
(03-12-2011, 01:27 AM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote: [ -> ]Good Night Jane and NightOwl....see you tomorrow

zero

Hoot Hoot Zero!

btw guys did you know that it's spelled Morons not Morans.
(03-12-2011, 01:28 AM)Inspector Gary Wrote: [ -> ]Nina, I agree with you... TOO many coincidences!! Awink

Ditto for me! I think the perps are in that gang somewhere, and AG and TW know who did it. I'm just wavering a little about whether AG was actively involved, but I'm still convinced that TW set it up.

This evening I saw the electronic billboard on Reynolds Road, Toledo
it sure is different seeing it up on the board than on a computer screen - it really upset me and my friends seeing such a darling young couple like this up on that screen. Very Sad!
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(Thought this was a turn-the-page post. Wasnme )
turn the page please ! Smiley_emoticons_biggrin
(03-12-2011, 01:01 AM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Jane...It's driving us all crazy...Little "Vel" hasn't even touched her din din tonite.

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