To truth be told .. How can you say we are witnessing the real Maytee. We are witnessing a mother whos son was murdered and found by her husband. This is the only Maytee we know. The one after the fact.
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Don't be so nieve...hasn't it ever crossed your mind that it is very strange that out of all of the people in the world to find Johnny and Lisa it just happens to be Johnny's parents? Go back and listen to the 9-11 tapes because they are extemely important. From the very first call, Maytee "Knew!" something. The second call she uses the word "kidnap"...which was 2 hours before they were found. This woman knows more than she is telling police and we all know it.
Yes she is probably grieving...but the word "mother" I don't really know if that fits her. Johnny never had a chance with her in his life and if John Sr is smart he would pack up and get away from her before it's too late for him as well, and take the two other kids as well.
Look if someone thought I had something to do with the death of their child, spouse, loved one whoever i would not be bantering back and forth calling the grieving person crazy and telling them to just "kill themself and get it over with" I would be defending myself and trying to do what ever i could do to help with the case.
Apologize for the typos, been a long day but this has really struck cord with me...
If I were a mother who got a call from someone like she did. A call that came a while after the fact that something was wrong. Went over to the house with LE and the car was there and noone answered the phones and 911 didnt ever get called till after she got the call ( about two hours ) I would be flipping out to. All her worst fears were probably going thru her mind. It is human nature. She also probably said things out of the oridinary to make police take notice in anyway to get them to do something, anything to get an answer. You know sometimes when mu daughter doesnt answer when she is suspose to I think something must be wrong and have said that before. I have even said "something is not right". this is not out of the ordinary for a parent.
(03-17-2011, 12:20 AM)JsMom Wrote: [ -> ] (03-17-2011, 12:19 AM)concerned Wrote: [ -> ] (03-17-2011, 12:14 AM)JsMom Wrote: [ -> ] (03-17-2011, 12:12 AM)concerned Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe Maytee is taunting them. Trying to get them to get so pissed they say something out of anger. There could be a motive to her behavior. Let me think a minute ... If I thought I knew who killed my child how would I get them to screw up? Its obvious there was alot of rage with the crime....How do you get a person to show rage... piss them off.
yah but she has taunted others that HAVE NOTHING to do with the case......just sayin IDK
agreed but I think she is venting
I CAN TOTALLY understand that but she goes over board! Thats all Im sayin
I know were you are coming from I am just looking at a person who has had the worst parents nightmare happen, They lose it. Do you have children?
(03-17-2011, 12:22 AM)concerned Wrote: [ -> ]Look if someone thought I had something to do with the death of their child, spouse, loved one whoever i would not be bantering back and forth calling the grieving person crazy and telling them to just "kill themself and get it over with" I would be defending myself and trying to "do what ever i could do to help with the case".
"do what ever i could do to help with the case" You are right on there. If she has nothing to hide and is completely innocent then she should be out keeping the story alive anyway possible. Calling America's Most Wanted, Nancy Grace, and even keep badgering local news to keep the story alive and fresh. Nancy Gracy and Jane Velez-Mitchell probably gave up interest on the story after seeing her behavior on JVM. If it were me I would be camping out in front of the safety building with signs and demanding justice or at least another press conference from Detectives. Meeting with the mayor, chief of Police, doing what ever it took and I would be cooperative with cops and not with hold information that could be jeopardizing to the case.
"do what ever i could do to help with the case"
(03-17-2011, 12:21 AM)truth be told Wrote: [ -> ]To truth be told .. How can you say we are witnessing the real Maytee. We are witnessing a mother whos son was murdered and found by her husband. This is the only Maytee we know. The one after the fact.
Don't be so nieve...hasn't it ever crossed your mind that it is very strange that out of all of the people in the world to find Johnny and Lisa it just happens to be Johnny's parents? Go back and listen to the 9-11 tapes because they are extemely important. From the very first call, Maytee "Knew!" something. The second call she uses the word "kidnap"...which was 2 hours before they were found. This woman knows more than she is telling police and we all know it.
Yes she is probably grieving...but the word "mother" I don't really know if that fits her. Johnny never had a chance with her in his life and if John Sr is smart he would pack up and get away from her before it's too late for him as well, and take the two other kids as well.
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Easily explained IMO. In the first call, Maytee knew something was seriously wrong because she'd been told about the phone call and supposed conversation with her son 2 hours earlier and nobody had been able to reach him or Lisa since. The lack of response from both kids, combined with what TW told her, caused panic.
When LE did the welfare check and didn't find them at the house, she might have jumped to the conclusion they'd been kidnapped after what TW said she'd heard Johnny say.
However, I do agree it's very strange that it was Johnny's parents who found the bodies, and I'm not convinced that it wasn't part of the plan for the Clarkes to find them. AP has been pretty scathing and insistent about Maytee being a 'snitch', and maybe the murders were a twisted way to punish her or her family. Tiff pretty much manipulated the family's discovery by offering to take John Sr. to the house.
(03-17-2011, 12:31 AM)concerned Wrote: [ -> ]If I were a mother who got a call from someone like she did. A call that came a while after the fact that something was wrong. Went over to the house with LE and the car was there and noone answered the phones and 911 didnt ever get called till after she got the call ( about two hours ) I would be flipping out to. All her worst fears were probably going thru her mind. It is human nature. She also probably said things out of the oridinary to make police take notice in anyway to get them to do something, anything to get an answer. You know sometimes when mu daughter doesnt answer when she is suspose to I think something must be wrong and have said that before. I have even said "something is not right". this is not out of the ordinary for a parent.
Agree 100%. As I've said before, calling a friend's parents (especially young 20-somethings) in the middle of the night would be kind of a last resort. If ANY of my son's friends called me in the middle of the night suggesting my son might be in trouble I would immediately panic - I would fear the worst right away. And lets face it, she loves her son but Maytee knows Johnny had been in trouble with the law and so had his friends. I'm sure she didn't think he was wrapped up in a game of Scrabble somewhere - she thought "uh oh, he must be in trouble" - same as MANY parents would. She had met TW and AG previously so one of THEM calling her in the middle of the night had to set her heart pounding "out of her chest"........
(03-17-2011, 12:21 AM)truth be told Wrote: [ -> ]Don't be so nieve...hasn't it ever crossed your mind that it is very strange that out of all of the people in the world to find Johnny and Lisa it just happens to be Johnny's parents? Go back and listen to the 9-11 tapes because they are extemely important. From the very first call, Maytee "Knew!" something. The second call she uses the word "kidnap"...which was 2 hours before they were found. This woman knows more than she is telling police and we all know it.
Yes she is probably grieving...but the word "mother" I don't really know if that fits her. Johnny never had a chance with her in his life and if John Sr is smart he would pack up and get away from her before it's too late for him as well, and take the two other kids as well.
No it doesn't cross my mind as ODD that Maytee & John Sr found Johnny & Lisa considering they called LE out to the Straubs house how many times (Twice?) before they took it upon themselves to kick in the door after peering in the window. It would be ODD if they never called LE & went out there & kicked in the door immediatly. & even then.... I wouldn't see it as completely crazy. Some of you people are sooooo fucking caught up in this "Maytee KNEW something from the 9-11 tapes!!!" Well no fucking shit she knew something, she got a phone call from 2 people in the middle of the night (Sharita & Tiffany) telling her about some sketchy phone call & the inability to contact her son by phone or by knocking on the door/ringing the door bell at the Straubs. You don't think you'd be concerned by the story TW told & the inability to make contact? I would! So NO we don't all know that she knows more than she's telling the police. I just think there are certain people on here & I guess you happen to be one of them who are bound & determined for whatever reason to believe that Maytee had some part in her sons murder. However, I've asked this many many times on this thread.... give me a motive! PLEASE! Give me a fucking motive for Maytee being involved in her sons murder & no one, to this day has been able to do it & not just do it, but give me a LOGICAL motive.
I watched one of the crime shows on A&E or discovery channel the other day. A serial killer in Washington or Oregon State was Killing prostitutes for quite a while. It came to a point where as he killed more he learned how to cover his tracks, He would shot them in the head and after a while he started putting a bag with a smiley face over there head as if to move them to their dumping ground he would not get blood on his vehicle. This crime ended up being solved by the police by one and I mean one red fiber found on one of the victims that they ended up matching to a red corvette. The man was caught. He was a well respected helicopter pilot that lived in the suburbs with a wife and kids. My point is. If a single red fiber caught a serial killer I have no doubt this will be solved
(03-17-2011, 12:11 AM)JsMom Wrote: [ -> ] (03-17-2011, 12:07 AM)concerned Wrote: [ -> ] (03-17-2011, 12:01 AM)JsMom Wrote: [ -> ] (03-16-2011, 11:57 PM)curious Wrote: [ -> ] (03-16-2011, 11:48 PM)JsMom Wrote: [ -> ]I wouldnt be online I tell u that shit right now!
Have you all lost your ever-lasting minds??? I don't care if the Easter bunny committed the crime, you ABSOLUTELY DO NOT jeopardize a case...PERIOD! She should be out right ashamed of herself and her friends and family too for not putting a stop to this madness!!!!
You talking about Maytee again? lol
What Im sayin is I wouldnt jeopardize a case if it was MY SON by even getting online! The computer would be the last damn thing on my mind!!!!
I dont see her as jeopardizing the case. She dont know shit. She is talkingabout what she thinks. She dont have details. LEdont tell family. She has never stated LE told her what they have.
Im not sayin she did but She could! I just would NOT be online for any reason if this just happened to my son!
You are online talking about a murder of someone elses son. Your involved with this so are you sure you wouldnt be ?
I totally agree. We have no way of knowing that she isnt doing that though either...
(03-17-2011, 12:50 AM)curious Wrote: [ -> ]why didn't they just shoot them..." Appalling, no excuse in my book, none.[/color]
Pretty sure that when she said that she meant, why did you have to make them suffer. Not to get graphic but putting a bullet in someones head is alot faster than putting a bag over someones head & no one whose lost a love one wants to think of their loved one suffering. My dad was shot in the chest & my 1
st question was how quick did he die.... did he suffer. That is a haunting thought. It makes the grieving soooo much worse. I know this 1
st hand. Of course you can twist this into something nefarious if you want to, but I don't at all.
(03-16-2011, 11:19 PM)concerned Wrote: [ -> ]Who out there has kids? Does anyone really know how they would react in this situation?
I have children. Three young adults that have beat tremendous odds.
For all of their lives, with every misstep and every trauma, I have had regret. I have worried how I might have contributed to their pain or misguided them in some way. I have replayed how I had raised them, who and what I had exposed them to, when I had been inattentive or failed to protect them. I have examined the choices I have made and how my choices may have affected them.
But no, none of my children have been murdered. So I don't
know how I would react.
Tiffany and her friend are attacking Maytee by repeatedly accusing her of being a "snitch."
Tiffany has actually called Maytee several times an "informant."
A "snitch" is someone who informs Law Enforcement of any knowledge they have of criminal activity by others.
Only criminals or those who consort with criminals consider this to be a bad thing.
The rest of us consider it to be our duty to inform Law Enforcement of criminal activity.
What we consider to be our civic duty, Tiffany and her friend consider to be repugnant activity.
Therefore, neither we nor Law Enforcement can believe Tiffany or her friend when they say that they have no knowledge of who the killers of Johnny and Lisa may be.
Tiffany and/or her friend, by their own use of the terms "snitch" and informant as an insult, may know exactly who the murderers are, or they they may be able to identify persons who do know. But they need to lie and say they know nothing, in order to avoid the label of "snitch."
My recollection is that Tiffany came on Mock and said that she had no knowledge before, during or after of the robbery and the murders.
By what form of convoluted reasoning can any of us, or law enforcement, rely upon that assurance as being truthful, when she and her friend use the terms "snitch" and informant as a pejorative?
As the saying goes...'it's all in the details'