MY OPINION...
I would not be ok with my 17 year old son having all those tattoos and openly smoking weed.
Things can only get worse from there. And they did.
Such a cute, silly kid. This is horrible.
(03-04-2011, 06:43 AM)Lady Cop Wrote: [ -> ]ABC13
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/video?id=7993906
Police are asking for your help in the murder of a Springfield Township couple. In fact, you might see that message while driving around town.
Bold red letters spell it out: "Double homicide victims." The message is shining above the streets of Toledo on digital billboards: "Reward for information leading to an arrest and conviction."
The signs are now keeping a gruesome murder in the limelight. It's hoped the exposure may help uncover who killed Johnny Clarke and Lisa Straub on January 31.
Johnny, who was 21, had been living with his 20-year-old girlfriend, Lisa, in her parent's house on Longacre Lane in Springfield Township.
The Straubs were away on a cruise when the Clarke family found the couple's bodies. They were tied up with bags over their heads. Investigators suspect robbery was the motive and someone was searching for a safe. The search ended with nothing stolen and two lives cut short.
Digital billboards are often used to solve crimes. They are often used for Amber Alerts, but this may be the first double homicide.
The reward in the case is now up to $16,000. If you have any information, call Crime Stopper at 419-255-1111.
LE is actually mentioning the safe?
Woke up this morning wondering if today is the day. Seen some post last night about DNA results coming in. Keeping my fingers and toes crossed.
I know this might be an odd angle, but has anyone thought that maybe a jealous ex GIRLFRIEND could have planned this? It seems Johnny's women are very possessive of him. It seems like there has been more than one girl posting different places that seemed to think they were supposed to spend their lives together. I know it's probably not likely but maybe they found someone willing to seek revenge for them.....torture Lisa in front of Johnny and if I can't have him nobody can type of deal?
(03-04-2011, 06:34 AM)ToledoNative Wrote: [ -> ]MY OPINION...
I would not be ok with my 17 year old son having all those tattoos and openly smoking weed.
Things can only get worse from there. And they did.
Such a cute, silly kid. This is horrible.
He is really cute, and only emulating what he was shown growing up. It's sad he didn't have better role models.
(03-04-2011, 08:38 AM)Duchess Wrote: [ -> ] (03-04-2011, 08:30 AM)purplepegasus Wrote: [ -> ]It's sad he didn't have better role models.
It should be a crime! When parents bring children into this world, the parents OWE them. He was a product of his environment & that's shameful.
Some are more caught up in being cool & being their child's best friend opposed to being their parent & I strongly feel that was the case in this situation.
(03-04-2011, 08:28 AM)purplepegasus Wrote: [ -> ]I know this might be an odd angle, but has anyone thought that maybe a jealous ex GIRLFRIEND could have planned this? It seems Johnny's women are very possessive of him. It seems like there has been more than one girl posting different places that seemed to think they were supposed to spend their lives together. I know it's probably not likely but maybe they found someone willing to seek revenge for them.....torture Lisa in front of Johnny and if I can't have him nobody can type of deal?
Well someone here told the story of the ex-girlfriend moving out of town. We know her name because of Johnny's tattoo. And of course she is fb friends with AG, VD, JB, CB, XYZ.....
G.Morning~Mother Mockers
He was handsome and he looked like a decent kid! I really hate it came down to this! This situation is just horrific! I feel so bad for ALL the family and friends of these 2. I also agree with I would not let my 17 yr old be openly smoking weed! I mean most of us in this world have friends whom smoke weed. Most murders that "r" drug related seem to be more of the CRACK and COKE and HEROIN and METH type people! NOT always but
9⁄
10 IMO! Its just really heartbreaking! I t REALLY IS! Hope the other twon boys dont get involved with the wrong people and/or drug! :( I JUST WISH JUSTICE WOULD COME SOON SO JOHNNY && LISA CAN BE AT PEACE WHILE RESTING IN HEAVEN! u know?
(03-04-2011, 10:09 AM)Adub Wrote: [ -> ] (03-04-2011, 08:28 AM)purplepegasus Wrote: [ -> ]I know this might be an odd angle, but has anyone thought that maybe a jealous ex GIRLFRIEND could have planned this? It seems Johnny's women are very possessive of him. It seems like there has been more than one girl posting different places that seemed to think they were supposed to spend their lives together. I know it's probably not likely but maybe they found someone willing to seek revenge for them.....torture Lisa in front of Johnny and if I can't have him nobody can type of deal?
Well someone here told the story of the ex-girlfriend moving out of town. We know her name because of Johnny's tattoo. And of course she is fb friends with AG, VD, JB, CB, XYZ.....
O WOW! thats crazy right there! I hadnt heard about the ex! What a shame!
(03-04-2011, 10:09 AM)Adub Wrote: [ -> ] (03-04-2011, 08:28 AM)purplepegasus Wrote: [ -> ]I know this might be an odd angle, but has anyone thought that maybe a jealous ex GIRLFRIEND could have planned this? It seems Johnny's women are very possessive of him. It seems like there has been more than one girl posting different places that seemed to think they were supposed to spend their lives together. I know it's probably not likely but maybe they found someone willing to seek revenge for them.....torture Lisa in front of Johnny and if I can't have him nobody can type of deal?
Well someone here told the story of the ex-girlfriend moving out of town. We know her name because of Johnny's tattoo. And of course she is fb friends with AG, VD, JB, CB, XYZ.....
He had a tattoo with her name or something? I wasn't aware of that (I'm assuming this is the same person that posted on RIPJohnny about needing to come home and it was supposed to be then in the future?)
(03-04-2011, 06:10 AM)ToledoNative Wrote: [ -> ]Ok so the girl (? looks like a boy) that posted that and the spanish writing (I don't know what it says, I don't speak Spanish) looks like she was really in love with Johnny. Her initials are "J.F." There's all kinds of I love you's and I'm in love with you, etc.
An older woman posted on his myspace "you promised to buy me a bentley". That was two years ago. Hmmmmmm...
Her initials are JM, maybe?
(03-04-2011, 04:26 AM)BellaMia Wrote: [ -> ]I dont want to put everything out in the open about people who may have absolutley nothing to do with this but thats exactly why I have been asking questions about older people because of those that I know and those I know of. Some of the families tied into the the "initials" (to many to name) lol so to speak are large name families and well connected from Detroit to Mexico to Chicago To Columbia. I grew up with quite a few of the older ones not knowing till I came across them seaching the who knows who on fb. There was an 18yr investigation at the time between the cities and countries I listed busted here you can look up around ummmm I'd say it was 2000 sometime. Might be easier to search from the names in this link http://www.ca6.uscourts.gov/opinions.pdf...57n-06.pdf anyways it was huge many people and if you can find an Indictment list alot of the names are in there. Another investigation some of the same families different players. Some of the families you will see are cousins or the girlfriends of these boys family. Some information into why I was curious sorry to cut off have been seaching information for all of you as i was typing and its very late now. I do want to be clear though i do not know if any of the people I am mentioning are directly related to the victims families just the friends and their girlfriends.
I haven't looked at your link yet. But when the talk was about wannabe gangbangers, that was my thought. If the so called wannabe's dad, uncle, cousins, grandfather, etc. were gangbangers then the lil' one is not a wannabe.
Here in my town the older relatives make the younger ones do the dirty work. Like shooting someone and taking them and their car out into some orchard and torching it. Sometimes these young punks aren't even 18 yet. But it is just how they are raised.