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(12-21-2011, 03:12 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-20-2011, 09:34 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: [ -> ] 12.21.11 Lisa's birthday. Rest in Peace.
my heart goes out to her family today and through the Christmas season. she should be there with them.

[Image: 11884.jpg]

[Image: Lisa-Straub.jpg]

Lovely Picture! RIP Lisa
(12-21-2011, 05:08 PM)RaisingAPrince Wrote: [ -> ]She has posted 9 pictures all with the same caption:

How thoughtful. Posting these pictures and greetings after the absence was noted within Mock and not a moment before! Go ahead - check the time stamps of when she posted her pics and when it was mentioned within Mock. Disingenuous, snooping bitch!

she's a phony POS. she forgot all about Lisa until she saw it here. selfish cow thinks it's all about her, posting any pic she had with her and Lisa in it. so obvious, pathetic and petty. she knows Lisa's parents loathe her usurping their daughter's life and death. she has no respect for their sorrow.


off-topic, here is a thread i just did about Cuba.


http://mockforums.net/thread-7080.html
happy birthday to lisa. i can't imagine the pain her family goes thru. after following this case, it's weird, it almost feels like i sorta knew her or something. NOT to take anything away from those who ACTUALLY did know Lisa, because I know there is no comparison to losing someone the way they did.


anyways, i'll be smokin one for lisa tonight.


Happy Birthday to a beautiful girl who became an angel too soon 109
(12-21-2011, 08:06 AM)Duchess Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-21-2011, 07:30 AM)pspence Wrote: [ -> ]can't people change in 12 yrs?


Does she give you the impression that she has?

ummmm good question. is she still a creepy/gypsy-ish/yes, but maybe not a criminal...just thinkin'...there haven't been anymore arrests since then (?) I am only speculating, I have no idea. But what I've actually read...I'm thinking more histrionics/tacky/"just nuts".

(12-21-2011, 08:47 PM)koko Wrote: [ -> ]it almost feels like i sorta knew her or something..


anyways, i'll be smokin one for lisa tonight.


Happy Birthday to a beautiful girl who became an angel too soon 109

I know what you mean KoKo...I feel like that about Johnny too...such a tragedy.

Maytee is so into herself. She is a narcissistic crook. Lc that's the first thing I thought of to .... of course maytee had to pick photos with herself in them not just a photo a solo photo of lisa. Ughhh
(12-23-2011, 08:20 AM)pspence Wrote: [ -> ]I know what you mean KoKo...I feel like that about Johnny too...such a tragedy.

right. I remember thinking how it could have been me and my bf the very first time i read what happened. like, i've had more than one nightmare with them in it one way or another, one being so scary I woke up in the middle of the night and could not fall back asleep. and those are the only nightmares i remember having in years.

it's terrible, scary and downright disturbing. the thing is, you can't leave it alone you just keep wanting to know more. more history on everyone involved, more details on HOW it really went down or the ever-present WHY? Because they did not deserve to die, especially the way they did.

one thing i still wonder about is how neither Johnny or Lisa had any defensive wounds...other than the reports of Big John/Maytee saying Lisa had dried blood on the side of her head after the bag was removed, which COULD have somehow been from her struggling. I wanna say that was from the 911 calls or some early report, can't even remember now if that was confirmed. idk, that's something that has stood out in my head from the beginning.

I just saw them in cuba
(12-21-2011, 03:04 PM)LytoMe Wrote: [ -> ]I have to agree with ShitStorm, the initial 911 phone calls reveal a lot. Maytee (at this point) should NOT HAVE known her child was in danger. But she automatically freaks out, because she knew there was something going on at that house.
With much respect to this opinion, I do not find this suspicious at all. I can only compare this to my own experience when my brother died, and the first thing I screamed was " Who did this, who killed my brother?" Had he actually been murdered like I thought he had in that moment, I might of looked suspicious too. My reaction to hearing he died was based only on the fact that I knew he was involved with drugs, I knew the kind of company that a drug habit invites, and in that moment of shock, my mind concluded that someone in that circle must have killed him.

If anything, I suspect that Maytee knew Johnny was involved in drugs, and may have feared the same. Does this mean that she is not capable of plotting and setting up some type of robbery? Her criminal history indicates she is very much capable of setting something up. With this in mind, I totally understand why many of us on here would see this as plausible.

Still with that in mind, her history also shows she has never been clever enough to get away with it. By now, with the police and the FBI involved, she would of already been connected to this and arrested if she were involved. That phone call was enough to make her think the worst if she was aware of the lifestyle and group of friends that Johnny was exposed to. When the police refused to break down the door, creating scenarios of them being in danger, might be to influence the cops to have grounds to go in, like she wanted them too. This would not be unheard of.

I think she went after TW and AG with a vengeance because she truly believed either one, or both were involved, I know I did too. Now she seems bewildered by the list of suspects, just like many of us are, wondering did they know them? How do these guys fit in?

Time will tell of course, and I certainly respect the theories presented about Maytee, and my thoughts on this may prove wrong and she may be involved like many believe. But there is a certain flow to all crimes, a certain energy and the way that things unfold and play out.. I personally do not feel that she had her hands in this one. JMO, of course.


I will tell you that by her (Maytee's) behavior in court, she is one scared and nervous little witch! She is praying it doesn't go to trial, I will tell you that! Too much shit will come out!
Duchess pointed out to me that this thread had passed one million views, i hadn't noticed.

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this case has been the subject of speculation and sad fascination for almost one year now.
the wheels of Justice grind slowly. but grind inexorably.
The Bedford Inn hotel on Telegraph rd. Is a well known spot to take call girls/ hookers, or a quick fuck, for the simple fact the place can be rented by 15 min. intervals. Telegraph rd. area has few of those kind of hotels, considering that Telegraph rd. is a famous track for the hookers to walk. Summer time I seen a few, one I went to school with. What a fucking shame.
(12-29-2011, 12:42 AM)Snoopy Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-21-2011, 03:04 PM)LytoMe Wrote: [ -> ]I have to agree with ShitStorm, the initial 911 phone calls reveal a lot. Maytee (at this point) should NOT HAVE known her child was in danger. But she automatically freaks out, because she knew there was something going on at that house.
With much respect to this opinion, I do not find this suspicious at all. I can only compare this to my own experience when my brother died, and the first thing I screamed was " Who did this, who killed my brother?" Had he actually been murdered like I thought he had in that moment, I might of looked suspicious too. My reaction to hearing he died was based only on the fact that I knew he was involved with drugs, I knew the kind of company that a drug habit invites, and in that moment of shock, my mind concluded that someone in that circle must have killed him.
i feel the same way snoopy. Evidence shows maytee lived a criminal life as well, so she knows what a dangerous life it is. If everyone determines her involvement for that reason, because she suspected something bad has happened, must live a sheltered life. not trying to be disrespectful to any one. When i first heard about this story, and about the scales and baggies i thought these kids were in on a bad thing. Dealing drugs always ends badly.


There is a robbery suspect being held up in a Toledo home. I don't have much info as I am on my phone. Maybe someone can look it up. I'm not around my computer. Smiley_emoticons_wink
(12-30-2011, 05:10 PM)JsMom Wrote: [ -> ]There is a robbery suspect being held up in a Toledo home. I don't have much info as I am on my phone. Maybe someone can look it up. I'm not around my computer. Smiley_emoticons_wink

anything more about this i'll put in toledo is a shithole thread. Smiley_emoticons_smile
i hope it's quintin helm who has been wanted for murder.

toledo blade

Toledo police have surrounded a home at 317 Western Ave. in South Toledo after receiving a report of a man with a gun.

The person, who police said is wanted on several warrants, has allegedly threatened to shoot an officer, according to initial reports. He is occupying the third floor attic portion of the home.

Police have gained entry to the house and are sending several negotiators to the scene.

Details will be published as they become available


edit to add, not helm.

TOLEDO, OH (WTOL) - Toledo Police are involved in a standoff with a man in South Toledo.

Friday afternoon, police attempted to serve warrants for abduction and felonious assault to Walter Roberts, 28, at 317 Western Avenue.

They believe Roberts went to the third floor.

TPD is now on the second floor trying to negotiate with Roberts.

Roberts said he will not be taken alive and that he is armed. Police do not know if he is armed.

TPD and SWAT teams have surrounded the house.

[Image: standoff.jpg]


He got away! Now searching South Toledo
(12-30-2011, 07:42 PM)Older Than Dirt Wrote: [ -> ]He got away! Now searching South Toledo

Thanks! and he's on Sex Offenders list - lets hope Blade or WTOL mention that on news ladies in Toledo beware! There seems to be another Murder according to Jsmom, find her post on Toledo is a S--- Hole thread - do you know anything on that? Happy New Year! when the time comes.
why toledo is a shithole thread for stuff not related to J & L case:

http://mockforums.net/thread-4805.html
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