(10-29-2011, 02:50 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: [ -> ]THIS POST IS STRICTLY SPECULATION. NOT FACTS.
however, it is based on very reliable information and the known character of certain people, as demonstrated by their criminal histories. so here are my theories:
the 2 in custody are not very bright, highly intelligent guys. they are also facing the death penalty and there is no doubt in my mind that if someone put them up to a robbery looking for a safe full of cash, they ARE going to roll over on that person(s) nomatter who it is. what if it was the clarkes?
they are the ones who went on and on in the police station that very awful night about the safe. not Jim V, but the clarkes. the night those kids were killed someone sent them after a non-existent safe. because Johnny talked about the "safe". 2 kids were horribly murdered and parents obsess about a safe that very night in the immediate aftermath?
who said they saw the kids take the key hidden in the garage to get in house? maytee did. she had observed that and she stated so.
these 2 hoodrats in custody didn't know this shit on their own by hoodrat osmosis.
and believe me, if anyone prompted them to go to that house, they will talk. maybe not right away because then they'd have to make admissions. but at some point their fear will make them talk. when they know for sure all the evidence to convict is there in the DA's hands.
supra is
my considered and informed opinion and speculation only. LC
Ive always wondered about this in the back of my mind, but wouldnt allow
myself to look into it too much, because it was just too awful to think about. It really makes alot of sense of some things though....
(10-30-2011, 09:43 AM)pspence Wrote: [ -> ]Yourleft said "the fact she (TW) was friends with Cameo on MySpace before the murders".
I thought I had read every post and must have missed this...this is huge. I sure hope she didn't know anything about it, but this is certainly incriminating.
JMO, but maybe M was jealous that L/J went to live at the Straubs...maybe Johnny was always talking about how awesome Straubs house was, their food delicious, her parents were nice, etc. etc. (I mean this truly was a world J had not been exposed to until Lisa) and jealously was the motive to have their house robbed. J/L just were not supposed to be there like LC said. JMO of a possibility. It is very very strange how all of a sudden M is totally quiet.
That would definitely give her grounds in convincing Johnny to move back
home... ie,Its just not safe, you couldve been killed etc....But it backfired
on her...
So . . . which one of you Toledo 'Tuffs' is gonna dress up as either a Demon or a Plea Bargain and Trick -or- Treat at the Clarkes', tonight?
C'mon . . . I'm sure you'll get a Snicker.
You know those fuckers have their porch light off. You KNOW it.
Just how do you take your children from multiple mother's trick or treating? Sounds like a recipe for disaster. Beatings for the baby mama's from the sperm donor. Cutting and wig pulling among all the baby mama's. You know it all just sucks.
Couldn't help thinking about this tonight while I was T or T'ng with my three 2 year old grandchildren and was saddened.
The "pubilc documents link" shows the intitials of the individuals interviewed. Looks suspiciously like Mock's alphabet soup. It is 13 pages long and I have no idea how to c/p it. The link pretty much outlines everything that LCSO has done to get to the place they are today.
So does Cameo Pettaway have a middle name? Isn't that standard operating procedure when making an arrest? You always get the middle name
And how about Madrid. What is up with no middle name for Miss Destiny? Ya'll got to check out that public documents link. The timeline and the alphabet soup is killing me. Why would LE be requesting info on an offense that happened back in 2002? And evidently they have shoe prints from that night.
RIP Johnny Clarke & Lisa Straub
May god have mercy on the souls of your killers
(11-01-2011, 06:05 PM)Adub Wrote: [ -> ]And how about Madrid. What is up with no middle name for Miss Destiny?
RIP Johnny Clarke & Lisa Straub
May god have mercy on the souls of your killers
Google searches show a Destiny Monica Madrid .age 21, 5 addresses in Toledo and 1 in Oregon,Oh.
I didn't include the links because family members names are listed.
(11-01-2011, 05:18 PM)Adub Wrote: [ -> ]The "pubilc documents link" shows the intitials of the individuals interviewed. Looks suspiciously like Mock's alphabet soup. It is 13 pages long and I have no idea how to c/p it. The link pretty much outlines everything that LCSO has done to get to the place they are today.
I wonder if the cigarette butt they took into evidence on 5-9-11 , is Samuel's ? Can they get DNA from a cig. butt ?
Can they get DNA from a cig. butt ?
yes.
(11-01-2011, 07:41 PM)undercovercameo Wrote: [ -> ] (11-01-2011, 06:05 PM)Adub Wrote: [ -> ]And how about Madrid. What is up with no middle name for Miss Destiny?
RIP Johnny Clarke & Lisa Straub
May god have mercy on the souls of your killers
Google searches show a Destiny Monica Madrid .age 21, 5 addresses in Toledo and 1 in Oregon,Oh.
I didn't include the links because family members names are listed.
undercovercameo, you found the right one! Ditto to the rest of your post also.
Were you a Mock member when NEO was here? wish he'd pop back on Mock he knew a thing or two I believe. I wonder if he knew this Madrid girl and since the alleged murders are from the East side of Toledo I was wondering if NEO is from that region - I certainly hope he is O.K.
I did find out Cameo and his new Facebook page he has different women on there and pictures of children crop up I assume these are his - one of these girls works at a stripper nightclub yuck
but, some of the comments you take with a grain of salt & and that place is in Toledo & Oregon Ohio and Florida only.
Information is scarce on this trio - I am praying the Detectives' find the rest that are involved.
(11-01-2011, 08:05 PM)Sincere Wrote: [ -> ] (11-01-2011, 05:18 PM)Adub Wrote: [ -> ]The "pubilc documents link" shows the intitials of the individuals interviewed. Looks suspiciously like Mock's alphabet soup. It is 13 pages long and I have no idea how to c/p it. The link pretty much outlines everything that LCSO has done to get to the place they are today.
I wonder if the cigarette butt they took into evidence on 5-9-11 , is Samuel's ? Can they get DNA from a cig. butt ?
Cameo's Myspace states that he drinks but does NOT smoke
http://www.myspace.com/raaaambo
(11-01-2011, 08:11 PM)NightOwl Wrote: [ -> ] (11-01-2011, 07:41 PM)undercovercameo Wrote: [ -> ] (11-01-2011, 06:05 PM)Adub Wrote: [ -> ]And how about Madrid. What is up with no middle name for Miss Destiny?
RIP Johnny Clarke & Lisa Straub
May god have mercy on the souls of your killers
Google searches show a Destiny Monica Madrid .age 21, 5 addresses in Toledo and 1 in Oregon,Oh.
I didn't include the links because family members names are listed.
undercovercameo, you found the right one! Ditto to the rest of your post also.
Were you a Mock member when NEO was here?
Haven't heard of NEO ,I'll search posts to see what he had to say.
I'll be thrilled when they arrest them ALL. I wonder how many knew about the murders after the fact. I can't imagine these types could have kept their mouths shut.
I would imagine that Destiny aka Baby d probably saw what was coming and removed herself from FB.
I heard from a VERY reliable spurce that Destiny is the one who drove them that night.
(11-01-2011, 10:13 PM)stoof725 Wrote: [ -> ]I heard from a VERY reliable spurce that Destiny is the one who drove them that night.
****source....stupid smartphone!