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(02-23-2011, 11:58 PM)ToledoNative Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-23-2011, 11:54 PM)SayWhat123 Wrote: [ -> ]Alot of ppl in Toledo say Nigga meaning my boy, my friend, Im not black but but I dont believe black ppl get
offended by beings that is what they say to their friends white black or Mexican. I hear them say it all the time I have a black cousins they say it all the time. Of course they are Gang Banging thugs. IDK.


It's my personal opinion. I'm married to a black man and I can't think of a good, intelligent excuse for that word to escape my lips.

Smart white people don't do it. Why was Eminem such a successful white rapper that got his music actually played on BET (black entertainment television)???? Because he knows not to use that word publicly and still get respect.

This is just my opinion. Obviously, you all are free to say whatever you want.

I agree with that and its not something I walk around saying. Im saying that young ppl use that slang. And from what I have noticed it dosent seem to bother the young black ppl, because they use it as a positive term. I dont understand why they use such a derogatory word as a positive saying but they do JMO. No disrespect to you or your husband.
(02-23-2011, 11:26 PM)Wish.I.was.a.P.I Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-23-2011, 11:16 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-23-2011, 11:12 PM)ToledoNative Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-23-2011, 11:09 PM)curious Wrote: [ -> ][quote='ToledoNative' pid='134208' dateline='1298516604']
[quote='Lady Cop' pid='134204' dateline='1298516389']
what is needed is that all the Mock members who will attend the benefit tomorrow find some way to recognize each other. a secret handshake? hah
a code word? i want you all to get together!
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That would be awesome. I'm so jealous.
Wait...you all are making me want to be in Toledo?? WTF!

It has to be something that no one else would notice. You will have to pm each other since other people (hint, hint) are on here reading this stuff.

Why hide it, at this pint everyone attending is probably a Mock member...I say wear a red string/yarn around your wrist...or whatever color

Please post pics, take notes of everything so you guys can report back to us and maybe if you guys say "Are you my nigga?" and they say yes..thats the code.. LOL Sorry, I'm states away!


hahahaha!!!
(02-24-2011, 12:07 AM)ToledoNative Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-23-2011, 01:56 PM)trixie Wrote: [ -> ]I hope this works..


Ok, I know I'm way behind here, been working all day.

Do we know who these guys in these pics are?

What does Lisa's tattoo on her wrist say?


The pics didn't show up when I did the quote. It was the three pics posted together with Lisa's drinking out of a can and a guy drinking out of what looks like a milk carton.
(02-24-2011, 12:07 AM)SayWhat123 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-23-2011, 11:58 PM)ToledoNative Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-23-2011, 11:54 PM)SayWhat123 Wrote: [ -> ]Alot of ppl in Toledo say Nigga meaning my boy, my friend, Im not black but but I dont believe black ppl get
offended by beings that is what they say to their friends white black or Mexican. I hear them say it all the time I have a black cousins they say it all the time. Of course they are Gang Banging thugs. IDK.


It's my personal opinion. I'm married to a black man and I can't think of a good, intelligent excuse for that word to escape my lips.

Smart white people don't do it. Why was Eminem such a successful white rapper that got his music actually played on BET (black entertainment television)???? Because he knows not to use that word publicly and still get respect.

This is just my opinion. Obviously, you all are free to say whatever you want.

I agree with that and its not something I walk around saying. Im saying that young ppl use that slang. And from what I have noticed it dosent seem to bother the young black ppl, because they use it as a positive term. I dont understand why they use such a derogatory word as a positive saying but they do JMO. No disrespect to you or your husband.


It's ok, I'm not that sensitive, but thanks, lol.

Black people say it because they are trying to take a negative word and turn it around and own it.
I just think if you are married to a black person or have biracial kids, the word shouldn't be in your vocabulary. Way too disrespectful.

Just my opinion. Everybody else can say what they want.
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Please post pics, take notes of everything so you guys can report back to us and maybe if you guys say "Are you my nigga?" and they say yes..thats the code.. LOL Sorry, I'm states away!

Im not thinking the family is going to be there greeting ppl so I highly doubt we will hear anything. Its an all day thing.

Please post pics, take notes of everything so you guys can report back to us and maybe if you guys say "Are you my nigga?" and they say yes..thats the code.. LOL Sorry, I'm states away!

Im not thinking the family is going to be there greeting ppl so I highly doubt we will hear anything. Its an all day thing.
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I think we should all get up early and get a M tat. M for Mock

Please post pics, take notes of everything so you guys can report back to us and maybe if you guys say "Are you my nigga?" and they say yes..thats the code.. LOL Sorry, I'm states away!


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ONCE AGAIN...NOOOOOO!

Normal people in Toledo don't talk like that. The "N" word has never been spoken from my mouth. If you know what's good for you, you won't let me hear it come out of your mouth. I don't care if it has the "er" or the "a" ending.

Of course, my husband is black, so...

If some normal people at Lisa's benefit here you all saying that, people could get offended!
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Native, I'm kidding..I would never actually do that and like I said, I don't even live in OH. There has been several people jokingly using the gangsta slang on here...that's why I said that...I was intending for people to actually do it.
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Crap..I meant I WASNT intending for people to actually do it.

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Personally, I thought it was funny.
(02-23-2011, 11:49 PM)toledoarea Wrote: [ -> ]Did someone report a white SUV around the neighborhood before the murders? I'm goin with O.J. Yep, I think O.J. Simpson did it.

Funny you should mention OJ because I've been thinking about Mark Furhman. He was discredited because he had used the word "nigger" at some time. Never mind the evidence. I think Furhman was a great detective.
(02-24-2011, 12:16 AM)wanttoknow Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-24-2011, 12:13 AM)SayWhat123 Wrote: [ -> ]

Please post pics, take notes of everything so you guys can report back to us and maybe if you guys say "Are you my nigga?" and they say yes..thats the code.. LOL Sorry, I'm states away!

Im not thinking the family is going to be there greeting ppl so I highly doubt we will hear anything. Its an all day thing.

I think we should all get up early and get a M tat. M for Mock
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I think you all are right and if you get the "M" tattoo, I just might have to get one, too.

Unless all the Maytee supporters are getting the same thing, lol.
(02-24-2011, 12:12 AM)ToledoNative Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-24-2011, 12:07 AM)SayWhat123 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-23-2011, 11:58 PM)ToledoNative Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-23-2011, 11:54 PM)SayWhat123 Wrote: [ -> ]Alot of ppl in Toledo say Nigga meaning my boy, my friend, Im not black but but I dont believe black ppl get
offended by beings that is what they say to their friends white black or Mexican. I hear them say it all the time I have a black cousins they say it all the time. Of course they are Gang Banging thugs. IDK.


It's my personal opinion. I'm married to a black man and I can't think of a good, intelligent excuse for that word to escape my lips.

Smart white people don't do it. Why was Eminem such a successful white rapper that got his music actually played on BET (black entertainment television)???? Because he knows not to use that word publicly and still get respect.

This is just my opinion. Obviously, you all are free to say whatever you want.

I agree with that and its not something I walk around saying. Im saying that young ppl use that slang. And from what I have noticed it dosent seem to bother the young black ppl, because they use it as a positive term. I dont understand why they use such a derogatory word as a positive saying but they do JMO. No disrespect to you or your husband.


It's ok, I'm not that sensitive, but thanks, lol.

Black people say it because they are trying to take a negative word and turn it around and own it.
I just think if you are married to a black person or have biracial kids, the word shouldn't be in your vocabulary. Way too disrespectful.

Just my opinion. Everybody else can say what they want.
my kids tell me its all in the way you say it. they never use the ----er. thats not cool, and they say it to all races. i dont like it either.

Im just going by what is around here where I live...its a smaller town, so we dont have bloods and crips. We are lucky enough to enjoy Mexican Mafia, Surrenos, and several other high profile gangs that you read about in the paper when they are talking about the gang wars along the borders. You really arent safe from gang shit anywhere anymore.
[/quote]Well it seems Toledo is ruled by bloods and crips. crips are Toledo's surenos. bloods are the nortenos. All useless shit to me. But if I had to choose I'd be a blood in a heartbeat. You'd see me representing the red and making the ASL symbol for "b" with my fingers. surenos are lame, imo. Bunch of pisas. That need to go back to Mexico, oh my.


[/quot
We have tons of gangs here...hell, we are New Mexico, and we are on a straight path from Juarez. Any Mexican, Tejano, Columbian etc gang youve ever seen on Gangland, we have in NM. The Zetas and MM scare me the most...make the Columbians of the 80s and 90s look like chumps.
(02-23-2011, 12:40 PM)Duchess Wrote: [ -> ]

I'm still hung up on there being no obvious signs of trauma. I really am. While I truly can't picture myself in a situation like they were in I do know myself well enough to know that I wouldn't be demure in that scenario. It's going to be damn obvious I was fighting for my life.

How about if you knew them, they were bros, and you felt that you could talk your way out of it?

(02-24-2011, 12:25 AM)ToledoNative Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-24-2011, 12:16 AM)wanttoknow Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-24-2011, 12:13 AM)SayWhat123 Wrote: [ -> ]

Please post pics, take notes of everything so you guys can report back to us and maybe if you guys say "Are you my nigga?" and they say yes..thats the code.. LOL Sorry, I'm states away!

Im not thinking the family is going to be there greeting ppl so I highly doubt we will hear anything. Its an all day thing.

I think we should all get up early and get a M tat. M for Mock


I think you all are right and if you get the "M" tattoo, I just might have to get one, too.

Unless all the Maytee supporters are getting the same thing, lol.
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Damn I never thought of that. Thanks I almost made a big mistake.
(02-23-2011, 04:50 PM)browntabby1226 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-23-2011, 04:49 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote: [ -> ]I love this site!!

I agree.

Me too. I love how we can have these brief moments of laughter. It is a nice break from the horrific nature of this crime.
(02-23-2011, 01:51 PM)LoserCity Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-23-2011, 12:35 PM)Duchess Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-23-2011, 12:30 PM)toledoarea Wrote: [ -> ]Why does everyone think Mr. Z is some badass? This man, Johnny, he was fighting for his life. As well as his girlfriend Lisa. I'll tell ya what. I'd bet every penny I had that Mr. Z and his pregnant bitch aren't gonna come in MY house, subdue me, duct tape my hands behind my back and my girlfriends hands, and place bags over our heads and kill us. It's not gonna happen. There is NO WAY this 17 yr old strung out on drugs, mal-nutritioned punk is gonna overtake a 21 yr old man who is fighting for his life. And if you do believe that, then obviously you've never been in a fight before.


I agree with that & have thought that all along. When one knows their life is at stake one does not go quietly, I don't care what popular opinion is regarding that. I'm fighting to the death & you're going to know I gave it my best shot.

I also do not believe that Z could be capable of this crime. He's a 17-yr old punk that probably wasn't even a match for Lisa judging by pictures. I think he rode along with Tiffany while she played her role because she didn't want to be alone and probably promised him a bonus for going along with her (bonus being a few oxys, of course).

I don't think the strung out minor and pregnant Tiffany could have done this either, unless they had a couple more people with them. This whole time I have thought there had to be more than two intruders.

Sorry, I'm still trying to catch up on conversations from earlier today...
a benefit for Ms. Straub will be held Thursday, Feb. 24, at TGI Friday's, Bernath Parkway and Airport Highway. The benefit runs from 12-10 p.m. Money raised from the benefit will be donated to the reward fund.

Thought I would post this one more time before I go to bed. Good Night all you Mockers. I'll be praying for some news. Cross your fingers.Notworthy
(02-23-2011, 11:50 PM)ToledoNative Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-23-2011, 11:46 PM)Wish.I.was.a.P.I Wrote: [ -> ]

Please post pics, take notes of everything so you guys can report back to us and maybe if you guys say "Are you my nigga?" and they say yes..thats the code.. LOL Sorry, I'm states away!


ONCE AGAIN...NOOOOOO!

Normal people in Toledo don't talk like that. The "N" word has never been spoken from my mouth. If you know what's good for you, you won't let me hear it come out of your mouth. I don't care if it has the "er" or the "a" ending.

Of course, my husband is black, so...

If some normal people at Lisa's benefit here you all saying that, people could get offended!
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Native, I'm kidding..I would never actually do that and like I said, I don't even live in OH. There has been several people jokingly using the gangsta slang on here...that's why I said that...I was intending for people to actually do it.
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Crap..I meant I WASNT intending for people to actually do it.

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Oh, ok, lol!
I hate that word. Especially when stupid little white gangsta wannabes call their cute little white babies that...TIFFANY!
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I don't use the word because of it's negative historical origins. That said, I detest political correctness. People need to stop with this bullshit about getting offended. Consider the source when something ignorant is said and ignore it or engage and change the mind of the person who said it. I can understand why someone like Mark Furhman used it.
(02-24-2011, 12:32 AM)SayWhat123 Wrote: [ -> ]a benefit for Ms. Straub will be held Thursday, Feb. 24, at TGI Friday's, Bernath Parkway and Airport Highway. The benefit runs from 12-10 p.m. Money raised from the benefit will be donated to the reward fund.

Thought I would post this one more time before I go to bed. Good Night all you Mockers. I'll be praying for some news. Cross your fingers.Notworthy


Goodnight...there's got to be an arrest or some new info soon!

Im just going by what is around here where I live...its a smaller town, so we dont have bloods and crips. We are lucky enough to enjoy Mexican Mafia, Surrenos, and several other high profile gangs that you read about in the paper when they are talking about the gang wars along the borders. You really arent safe from gang shit anywhere anymore. Cant even become Mormon and go to Salt Lake.
Signs_173
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I fully expect American gangs, which are already full of hispanic gangs, to start copying the shit going on in Mexico - which is unspeakable.
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Its already started...no lie.
(02-24-2011, 12:23 AM)shitstorm Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-23-2011, 11:49 PM)toledoarea Wrote: [ -> ]Did someone report a white SUV around the neighborhood before the murders? I'm goin with O.J. Yep, I think O.J. Simpson did it.

Funny you should mention OJ because I've been thinking about Mark Furhman. He was discredited because he had used the word "nigger" at some time. Never mind the evidence. I think Furhman was a great detective.

And so what exactly do you find funny? Or does funny sometimes mean disturbing? AargghH! Peace out! Blessed be! God be willing...fashooo....

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