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It would also help to know what the actual autopsy reports say regarding trauma and bruising. Was the scene bloody or not? Some say yes, others say no. I am local, and nothing has been said about the crime scene, only that they were asphyxiated with bags. It would definitely help to have more info.
(03-16-2011, 01:26 PM)Adub Wrote: [ -> ]And a lot of Nolle prosequi entered even when the arrested individual was caught selling to undercover officers. What the hell is up with that Toledo? And not just heroin but a lot of crack cocaine also.

I've heard already on the Radio heroin use on the rise - but, this is strange - maybe someone out there can explain. Interesting post Adub.
This is 'sort of' Offtopic but it might be important to just one
person who reads this bulletin board sometime so I am compelled
to post this.

OHIO has an amazing resource called Crittenton Services. A neighbor's
daughter became pregnant, and she did not get along with her parents.
She wanted to keep her baby. The Crittenton Home took her in, and
transported her to every appointment, to school, on picnics. and there
were two or three family nights every week. The facility was a home
in the suburbs with a white picket fence and 12 individual rooms for
a girl and her child. There was a staff who taught them 'routine' and
life skills and they HAD to stick to the agenda or they did not get their
perks. They learned to cook healthy meals and were shown (with
their food stamps) how to shop economically and healthily. They
were given job interview training and most were placed in a job
before they left.

This gal was originally placed in a literal 'mansion' only three blocks
from the Governor's Mansion in Columbus. No one but the very locals
know its purpose as it is hidden by a long lane of trees. Once she
turned 18, she was moved to a facility in Toledo where there was
more job training. She got a receptionist job and I kid you not, she
is married to a Senior Vice President of a Toledo firm you all would
recognize, they have three additional children, he adopted the 'out
of wedlock baby.' They have been married 17 years. She is quite
active in the Charity Golf Tournament scene in Toledo and you would
think she walked out of Vogue. Her children are delightful I hear.

Now, she also had a drug habit when Crittenton took over. So they
are obviously equipped for many things.

I know that their facilities (homes) are not marked as traditional
non profit buildings, but are facilities that look very much like the
neighborhood. You might even have one near you.

What I am trying to say is....IF YOU ARE A TEEN OR A PERSON AT RISK
IN SOME WAY OR OTHER...... OR IF YOU HAVE A FRIEND WHO IS IN NEED.
.....................Please, Please. Please, look at the site..................
below and see if they can help you. There are grants and financial
help so you do not have to have insurance. If you are pregnant and
need help. Click the link below. If you are abused. Look below. If your
family is having trouble communicating. Look at the link below.
If you have a baby who does not seem to be thriving, please click this
Link. And Good Luck. PS. These are in almost every state, so if you want
to get out of Ohio.....Here is a safe way to do it.

The number is 800-280-2229 or 304-242-7060
Their motto is "Transforming Life - one child, one girl, and one family at a time." Smiley_emoticons_smile

http://www.florencecrittenton.net/

DISCLAIMER - I am not nor have I ever been affiliated with this organization
except to see the beauty of their wonderful work. And THANKS if you read
all the way to the end of this. Notworthy
(03-16-2011, 01:27 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: [ -> ]well i think it's all Mock's fault there have been no arrests and no news! hah

so go be adventurous and check out the rest of the forum...like my photographs. Smiley_emoticons_biggrin

you have to see the baby in this post:

http://mockforums.net/thread-5104.html

and there are other horrible crimes! Strangle Woo



Thats adorable....Looks like Stewie from Family Guy

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WolfHouse

A Mock Team Challenge ........PROJECTED NIT-PICKING TIME LINE.

You have put a lot of time and thought into all of this post.

I wish you GOOD LUCK! - I will try to help you if I can. I've a couple more questions for JsMom maybe she can get some results not sure. I do know TGIFriday's is open until 2 a.m. during the week and Midnight on Sunday - so if things were a bit slow there Lisa got off early maybe 10 p.m. or 10.30 p.m.
You could do a Mapquest from TGIFriday's Airport Highway Toledo to Longacre.

Cheers!

JsMom have you been able to reach Tiffany yet? I have 2 more questions for you.

Can you ask Tiff if she can tell us how many people showed up at Johnny & Lisa's party on the Saturday and can she give their initials? VD Johnnys friend is also a friend of Tiffs - BA is VD's girlfriend she has removed herself from Tiffs friends list but, VD is still on it - can Tiff ask VD what kind of car Johnny was driving and how far VD's home is to TGIFriday's. Can Tiff ask VD if Johnny gave anyone a ride over to TGIFridays or gave anyone a ride home prior to picking up Lisa?

Thanks JsMom!
(03-16-2011, 01:26 PM)Adub Wrote: [ -> ]And a lot of Nolle prosequi entered even when the arrested individual was caught selling to undercover officers. What the hell is up with that Toledo? And not just heroin but a lot of crack cocaine also.

nolle= dismiss. prosecutor probably ran out of time to bring indictment/prelim hearing/trial due to drugs not being back from lab for testing. The prosecutor can bring the indictment original (without prelim) later once the drugs are back from lab.
JsMom have you been able to reach Tiffany yet? I have 2 more questions for you.

Can you ask Tiff if she can tell us how many people showed up at Johnny & Lisa's party on the Saturday and can she give their initials? VD Johnnys friend is also a friend of Tiffs - BA is VD's girlfriend she has removed herself from Tiffs friends list but, VD is still on it - can Tiff ask VD what kind of car Johnny was driving and how far VD's home is to TGIFriday's. Can Tiff ask VD if Johnny gave anyone a ride over to TGIFridays or gave anyone a ride home prior to picking up Lisa?

Thanks JsMom!
(03-16-2011, 04:51 PM)NightOwl Wrote: [ -> ]WolfHouse

A Mock Team Challenge ........PROJECTED NIT-PICKING TIME LINE.

You have put a lot of time and thought into all of this post.

I wish you GOOD LUCK! - I will try to help you if I can. I've a couple more questions for JsMom maybe she can get some results not sure. I do know TGIFriday's is open until 2 a.m. during the week and Midnight on Sunday - so if things were a bit slow there Lisa got off early maybe 10 p.m. or 10.30 p.m.
You could do a Mapquest from TGIFriday's Airport Highway Toledo to Longacre.
Cheers!

Thank you so much. It would clear alot in our minds if we could do
this and would keep the same questions from being asked over and over.
Cheers
Insane:Smiley_emoticons_fiesSmiley_emoticons_stummSmiley_emoticons_slashSmiley_emoticons_hurra3police:OopsAwink
turn the page
no really turn the page
i'm asking nicely for the third time!
(03-16-2011, 05:09 PM)NightOwl Wrote: [ -> ]JsMom have you been able to reach Tiffany yet? I have 2 more questions for you.

VD Johnnys friend is also a friend of Tiffs - BA is VD's girlfriend she has removed herself from Tiffs friends list but, VD is still on it
Thanks JsMom!

BA and VD are both still friends with TW on FaceB. JsMom is not.


i'm asking nicely for the third time!


and it's getting to be a bore.
Saw the family today. they are, of course sad, angry and frustrated. The detectives are still giving them hope!!
(03-16-2011, 05:49 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: [ -> ]i'm asking nicely for the third time!


and it's getting to be a bore.

r u saying that i'm a bore LC?:O
(03-16-2011, 05:48 PM)Nina Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-16-2011, 05:09 PM)NightOwl Wrote: [ -> ]JsMom have you been able to reach Tiffany yet? I have 2 more questions for you.

VD Johnnys friend is also a friend of Tiffs - BA is VD's girlfriend she has removed herself from Tiffs friends list but, VD is still on it
Thanks JsMom!

BA and VD are both still friends with TW on FaceB. JsMom is not.

Nina thanks! BA has a totally new Facebook page that she started - she has abandoned the old page pretty much last post on it was Valentines Day. On her new FB page she doesn't have TW as a friend - however I'm sure Tiff has BA old page on hers. Crazy LOL!

why does it seem that every one talk's alott of bs about t.w and what she has been threw in her life has nothing to do with this case people do make mistakes in their life & need guidance my focus is on m.c and the fact that she is nt telling the whole truth wich is having every one go crazy over this case 1)ok tw called jc mom and said she was un able to reach him after a hr after they talked ok fine may be phone did go dead why did m.c just jump to a conclusion that some thing was wrong did she know what her son was in to ? did she know what was going to happen ? dont get me wrong i do feel sorry for what happend im just trying to get the truth and nothing but the truth
Well Smooth, TW is crucial to this case b/c other than the murderers, she is the last person JC talked to on this earth. Also, while her lifestyle is questionable, it is important as well. She associates herself with known hoodlums. You know the saying, you are who you associate with.
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