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(02-13-2011, 11:03 PM)Cracker Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-13-2011, 10:40 PM)netsleuth Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-13-2011, 10:31 PM)Cracker Wrote: [ -> ]You fucking idiots. Those reports are about IRAQI detention centers run by IRAQ. "Former US" means we LEFT THE DAMN PLACE FOR THEM TO RUN.

Jesus Christ you people come from the stupidest state in the union.

You better read up on Abu Ghraib for starters, fool.

Yes, THAT is relevant to this case, too, tard. /s It's always the government, isn't it? You will find a way to blame slave owners or the The Man for this crime.

How about this, people of Toledo: At least two of you raised drug dealers. One of them killed the other one and a beautiful, innocent girl in a disgusting manner. It wasn't slave owners or the government. IT WAS YOU! YOU have made your city into a miserable place to live and allowed your youth to behave in absolutely horrific and unacceptable ways. Your economy is shot, your schools are terrible, and the future is bleak. Instead of doing something REAL to fix the situation, you sit on FaceBook all day and concentrate your efforts on two kids that are already gone. You can't fix this. It is beyond repair.

Volunteer your time helping young people instead. Then you can pretend you are superior, netsleuth. Because I'm mostly disgusted by you and your liberal propaganda and the cloak of blame you wear. Be relevant instead of a big-mouthed, fat-assed gossip hen that adds nothing to society except a negativity and an attitude of entitlement.
parents do play a big roll in how their children turn out. stop being so mean and maybe just maybe some one will pay attention to what you say.
(02-13-2011, 10:46 PM)doing40thisyear Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-13-2011, 10:31 PM)kitty1 Wrote: [ -> ]someone asked about Lisa's funeral and I don't know if i posted this or not. it was private, but word of mouth got around so many people were there. the people that the family did not want there were not there and wouldn't have been allowed in. She looked good but of course not like she was in life. you have all seen the pictures. she was adorable freckles and all. they had lots of pictures and and a book she had written about what she expected her future to be like. her dreams, her goals and her heros. that was difficult to read. of course i was looking in the crowd for suspicious people. i saw no "thugz or gangstas" or any even remotely close to that. her family is dignified, respectful and know how to speak and write using all the vowels and consonants.

I am really sorry for your loss....I just wanted to express that to you.

thanks so much for that
I think he may have been referring to the "Jonny" spelling.
(02-13-2011, 11:15 PM)Cracker Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-13-2011, 11:08 PM)doing40thisyear Wrote: [ -> ]YOU GOT TO LOVE CRACKER'S COMMENTS!!!!!!!

I know I'm blunt. I'm pragmatic. I volunteer my time with a group that helps at-risk kids do better in school and start pre-planning for college and another group that helps teenage prostitutes (huge problem in GA). I may not solve any crimes, but I am sure trying to prevent them. Smiley_emoticons_smile

Most of the posters in this thread seem like decent, caring citizens. There are a few that are so off-base and irritating that I can't stomach reading much of this. That's too bad because I'm sure I'm missing some good stuff because it is overshadowed by BS.

WOW CRACKER...I glad you shared that volunteer work as they could have used YOU in Toledo Ohio a few years ago when these fools were growing up. IMO of course, I still think it had all to do with drugs...drugs ...drugs... and Mother Maytee knew her son was dealing. IMO it was something alot these families do in Toledo for extra cash. Esp with the economy the way it is. It is a means for extra cash to not have to be reported at Tax Time. These is all these fools have ever known..drugs and gangs because they grew up with it.

A person I knew...I am afraid to admit a Drug Dealer....told me several stories at which he was subject to basically a home invasion. He was aproached at his door with a several men who looked like FBI and even served him a fake warrent and displayed a fake badge. Once inside, they tide him up and stole all of his drugs and money. Also this same person, love to entertain the ladies and was entertaining 2 laides at his home. As the one distracted him, the other one stole his money and drugs. again..IMO...it had all to do with drugs. either money owed or just simply wanted whatever he had to get high and knew he had it that night. As for the Drug Dealer I knew... I dont know how the goof made any money as he wasnt very good at it, was he?
(02-13-2011, 11:29 PM)fabulous Wrote: [ -> ]but if you read his FB page...he's all about JC...respecting him, he went to his showing, he said he was like a brother to him....etc etc.

Of course. That would be expected.

(02-13-2011, 11:31 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: [ -> ]Bear: This was uncalled for. I believe this is a personal attack. Stop it!


personal attacks are allowed here. just not threats.
but i don't allow threads in the crime forum to go off track with personal bullshit.

Nets see post 2450.

yes ma'am.

I'll be good. Sorry.
(02-13-2011, 11:22 PM)netsleuth Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-13-2011, 11:20 PM)Cracker Wrote: [ -> ]Some people can't resist injecting their own personal dysfunction into every subject upon which they speak. They live in anger and blame and never realize THEY are the problem. Anger and blame begets anger and blame. And people wonder why kids are so effed up these days...

This from the proud racist who calls the first lady a Gorilla? Talk about anger and blame. It's you who feels that white people are victims of taxation, no?

The crime forum mod has explained over and over to you about the correct place to vent off-topic posts. You can't seem to control your anger. You can "go off" on whomever you'd like IRL, but you don't run this forum. You are a guest here. A very rude guest.

You shouldn't capitalize "gorilla", but you really should capitalize "First Lady," as it is a title.

Please refer any of your other outbursts to my avatar. hahahahahahaha
(02-13-2011, 11:27 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote: [ -> ]Yes and from the look of your new AV, you have gone to the Miss Truvy's beauty palor and got your hair coiffed and a manicure. You look marvelous.....

Hahahaha. Lurve Miss Truvy! Thank you.
(02-13-2011, 11:34 PM)Mommabear Wrote: [ -> ]She is not a racist. She just states her opinions bluntly and not in the PC manner that you would like to see. Sorry, but I am not PC either. However, You both have crossed the line.

Do this crap in another thread please.

I think she's a racist. Do you know her personally? Can you vouch for her character?

You think calling black people Gorilla's and referring to ones self as cracker and white devil, are innocent banter. Fine. I don't.

Yes, we both crossed the line. And, she crossed it line first. I've said I will not start personally charged trouble, but I will not sit back and take it, either.

I maintain that the initial point I made about military experience, by those who gloat about legalized murder, being potentially related.
(02-13-2011, 11:38 PM)Cracker Wrote: [ -> ]The crime forum mod has explained over and over to you about the correct place to vent off-topic posts.

And this was also explained TO YOU, who started the personal shit here. My posts have been on topic, unless others have taken them to a personal level.

Quote:You can't seem to control your anger. You can "go off" on whomever you'd like IRL, but you don't run this forum. You are a guest here. A very rude guest.

Again, I welcome your disdain. Your hypocrisy is also noted.

Quote:You shouldn't capitalize "gorilla", but you really should capitalize "First Lady," as it is a title.

I'll capitalize what I wish to capitalize. Save your teachy preachy shit for church on Sunday.

Quote:Please refer any of your other outbursts to my avatar. hahahahahahaha

Please refer your BS to your first statement of hypocrisy in this thread.

(02-13-2011, 11:37 PM)Mommabear Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-13-2011, 11:31 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: [ -> ]Bear: This was uncalled for. I believe this is a personal attack. Stop it!


personal attacks are allowed here. just not threats.
but i don't allow threads in the crime forum to go off track with personal bullshit.

Nets see post 2450.

yes ma'am.

I'll be good. Sorry.

Careful, the grammar police are in full force. Unless you support racism, that is.

the end of the horseshit now :stir_shit:

we can't solve the case tonight, but we can discuss THE CASE. tomorrow we will be down, i don't know for how long. let's hope all hell doesn't break loose in the case while we're offline~~
(02-13-2011, 11:34 PM)kitty1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-13-2011, 10:43 PM)Wish.I.was.a.P.I Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-13-2011, 10:31 PM)kitty1 Wrote: [ -> ]someone asked about Lisa's funeral and I don't know if i posted this or not. it was private, but word of mouth got around so many people were there. the people that the family did not want there were not there and wouldn't have been allowed in. She looked good but of course not like she was in life. you have all seen the pictures. she was adorable freckles and all. they had lots of pictures and and a book she had written about what she expected her future to be like. her dreams, her goals and her heros. that was difficult to read. of course i was looking in the crowd for suspicious people. i saw no "thugz or gangstas" or any even remotely close to that. her family is dignified, respectful and know how to speak and write using all the vowels and consonants.

Thanks for this info Kitty. I am curious if her ex was there or if he was one that wasn't allowed?

i'm not sure about that. there were pics of him there. one of the reasons for the police presence was to keep Maytee and her entourage away

Kitty Again Im sorry for you loss and let me know if I am being out of line with this question. Why did the family not want Maytee there? Just want your opinion on that. I know she had blamed LS (cause of the ex Boyfriend). Maybe I am way out of line..just let me know cuz my heart breaks for you and your friends and the family. Who were LS's heros. (in that book you were talking about) and when did she write the journal or book? Was Nursing something she always wanted to pursue?
(02-13-2011, 11:35 PM)sharit Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-13-2011, 11:03 PM)Cracker Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-13-2011, 10:40 PM)netsleuth Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-13-2011, 10:31 PM)Cracker Wrote: [ -> ]You fucking idiots. Those reports are about IRAQI detention centers run by IRAQ. "Former US" means we LEFT THE DAMN PLACE FOR THEM TO RUN.

Jesus Christ you people come from the stupidest state in the union.

You better read up on Abu Ghraib for starters, fool.

Yes, THAT is relevant to this case, too, tard. /s It's always the government, isn't it? You will find a way to blame slave owners or the The Man for this crime.

How about this, people of Toledo: At least two of you raised drug dealers. One of them killed the other one and a beautiful, innocent girl in a disgusting manner. It wasn't slave owners or the government. IT WAS YOU! YOU have made your city into a miserable place to live and allowed your youth to behave in absolutely horrific and unacceptable ways. Your economy is shot, your schools are terrible, and the future is bleak. Instead of doing something REAL to fix the situation, you sit on FaceBook all day and concentrate your efforts on two kids that are already gone. You can't fix this. It is beyond repair.

Volunteer your time helping young people instead. Then you can pretend you are superior, netsleuth. Because I'm mostly disgusted by you and your liberal propaganda and the cloak of blame you wear. Be relevant instead of a big-mouthed, fat-assed gossip hen that adds nothing to society except a negativity and an attitude of entitlement.
parents do play a big roll in how their children turn out. stop being so mean and maybe just maybe some one will pay attention to what you say.

As I have to work in the morning, I will comment briefly before bed.

You are all playing very politely (most of you, not the militant one), but not one of you called bullshit on the several posts about an Iraqi prison run by Iraqi military police that torture other Iraqi citizens. That post, and the following commentary by the militant netpanther, was off topic, EXTREMELY inflammatory and IRRELEVANT, and derogatory toward our US gov't. None of you noticed until I shocked it into you. If you don't like my methods, pay more attention and I won't have to use verbal force to inspire reading comprehension.

While some people like to complain about the gov't, they sure don't mind cashing the checks. They also like to bite the hand that feeds them. I can live without people like that. I don't care if I offend her. That you all follow along like sheep is very disturbing to me. I do feel the pressures of extreme taxation because I'm not in the get-more-back-than-you-put-in category. I have educated myself and work hard. Netpanther doesn't understand that because she gets more than she gives.

My politeness is saved for people worth the effort. If I read ugliness disguised as politeness, I respond appropriately. I wouldn't be polite to the hate-filled, in-your-face militant IRL, so I won't online. Not that we would run in the same circles. All of my friends of color are educated and polite and don't "go off" on people. They wouldn't like her, either.
(02-13-2011, 10:31 PM)kitty1 Wrote: [ -> ]someone asked about Lisa's funeral and I don't know if i posted this or not. it was private, but word of mouth got around so many people were there. the people that the family did not want there were not there and wouldn't have been allowed in. She looked good but of course not like she was in life. you have all seen the pictures. she was adorable freckles and all. they had lots of pictures and and a book she had written about what she expected her future to be like. her dreams, her goals and her heros. that was difficult to read. of course i was looking in the crowd for suspicious people. i saw no "thugz or gangstas" or any even remotely close to that. her family is dignified, respectful and know how to speak and write using all the vowels and consonants.

How very sad. I hope justice is near.
Hello kitty1,

Can you venture a guess as to what LS attraction was for the guys she dated? Was there an element of rebellion and if so was it directed at either of her parents? Was this possilbly a way of defining herself apart from an older sister?

zero
(02-13-2011, 11:35 PM)kitty1 Wrote: [ -> ][quote='doing40thisyear' pid='127770' dateline='1297651577']
[quote='kitty1' pid='127763' dateline='1297650712']
someone asked about Lisa's funeral and I don't know if i posted this or not. it was private, but word of mouth got around so many people were there. .

hello kitty1,
Can you venture a guess as to what LS attraction was for the guys she dated? Was there an element of rebellion and if so was it directed at either of her parents? Was this possilbly a way of defining herself apart from an older sister?

zero
(02-13-2011, 11:54 PM)Cracker Wrote: [ -> ]You are all playing very politely (most of you, not the militant one), but not one of you called bullshit on the several posts about an Iraqi prison run by Iraqi military police that torture other Iraqi citizens.

You presume that's the one link tells the entire story? Does this look familiar? Again google Abu Ghraib if you must. Ask yourself who trained the Iraqi military? Who was in charge at the time in question?

[Image: abu-ghraib-tm.jpg]

Quote:That post, and the following commentary by the militant netpanther, was off topic, EXTREMELY inflammatory and IRRELEVANT, and derogatory toward our US gov't. None of you noticed until I shocked it into you. If you don't like my methods, pay more attention and I won't have to use verbal force to inspire reading comprehension.

Now you've taken to insulting others, in addition to myself while claiming that I should take my shit to another area? I'd like to say more but again out of respect for LC, I will not. I hope the mods take note of your castigation of other participants, however.

Quote:While some people like to complain about the gov't, they sure don't mind cashing the checks.

I believe that Government can effect positive change, under the right leadership. Also, I've never cashed a government check in my life, outside of a tax return.

Quote:They also like to bite the hand that feeds them. I can live without people like that. I don't care if I offend her. That you all follow along like sheep is very disturbing to me.

Again, you're attempting to insult others for engaging in a conversation with me. Pathetic bullying on full display. I worked from the time I was 15, got an education and left my career to care for a child. Thankfully my husband makes enough $ for me to have that luxury.

Quote:I do feel the pressures of extreme taxation because I'm not in the get-more-back-than-you-put-in category.

Really? Have you looked into the cost of maintaining public schools? How about road repair? Public libraries? Student loans? Veterans benefits? Social Security? Medicare? I've never been on welfare in my life. So stop with your insulting, tiresome stereotypes, as per your own admonition to heed the advice of mods.

Quote:I have educated myself and work hard. Netpanther doesn't understand that because she gets more than she gives.

You've taken to lying again. You don't know anything about me. And, your presumptions are incorrect.

Quote:My politeness is saved for people worth the effort. If I read ugliness disguised as politeness, I respond appropriately.

What? Another person here on an ill deserved ego trip. Imagine!

Quote:I wouldn't be polite to the hate-filled, in-your-face militant IRL, so I won't online. Not that we would run in the same circles. All of my friends of color are educated and polite and don't "go off" on people. They wouldn't like her, either.

Ask your friends of color what they think of your racist lingo. I'm guessing they'd change their mind about their so called friend.

Out of respect for LC I will not respond to your taunting in the manner I desire.
(02-13-2011, 11:53 PM)doing40thisyear Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-13-2011, 11:34 PM)kitty1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-13-2011, 10:43 PM)Wish.I.was.a.P.I Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-13-2011, 10:31 PM)kitty1 Wrote: [ -> ]someone asked about Lisa's funeral and I don't know if i posted this or not. it was private, but word of mouth got around so many people were there. the people that the family did not want there were not there and wouldn't have been allowed in. She looked good but of course not like she was in life. you have all seen the pictures. she was adorable freckles and all. they had lots of pictures and and a book she had written about what she expected her future to be like. her dreams, her goals and her heros. that was difficult to read. of course i was looking in the crowd for suspicious people. i saw no "thugz or gangstas" or any even remotely close to that. her family is dignified, respectful and know how to speak and write using all the vowels and consonants.

Thanks for this info Kitty. I am curious if her ex was there or if he was one that wasn't allowed?

i'm not sure about that. there were pics of him there. one of the reasons for the police presence was to keep Maytee and her entourage away

Kitty Again Im sorry for you loss and let me know if I am being out of line with this question. Why did the family not want Maytee there? Just want your opinion on that. I know she had blamed LS (cause of the ex Boyfriend). Maybe I am way out of line..just let me know cuz my heart breaks for you and your friends and the family. Who were LS's heros. (in that book you were talking about) and when did she write the journal or book? Was Nursing something she always wanted to pursue?

lisa's hero was her older sister. i believe she wrote it her senior year. i don't know how long she wanted to be a nurse. i'd rather not reveal more except to say that Maytee is not just acting bizarre because she is grieving. she has always been a nut job!!!!
i asked nicely. i pleaded. i demanded. it does not sink in. keep the political crap out of THIS thread and go start another.

i am locking the thread for now. sorry to the rest of you. it's not fair and i have NEVER had to do it before. i'll open it again when i am good and damn ready.
and do not start another thread on this case.


further, i don't give a flying fuck who started it and in what thread. what is this, grade school? neener neener she started it wahhhhhhhh.
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