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Quote:i called sharita.she is a friend of mine but her boyfriend is johnnys best friend.

Finally! This clears up ALOT of crap about who this Sharita was!

(02-17-2011, 12:00 AM)jash Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:i called sharita.she is a friend of mine but her boyfriend is johnnys best friend.

Finally! This clears up ALOT of crap about who this Sharita was!

YES!!

(02-16-2011, 11:54 PM)RJs-Ex Wrote: [ -> ]TiffWill123 - Wow, I'm impressed that you're on here and answering questions. Hearing your side of the story does make me re-think my opinion of what might've happened to Johnny & Lisa. So, thank you for that.

Do you think the killers were still in the house when you went there the first time and knocked on the door/rang the bell? And what were you thinking - out playing detective and shit when you're pregnant? Who knows what kinda shit you could've walked up on - know what I'm saying? In the future, just keep yourself SAFE first, ok? :-)

i dont think they were there when i went there.there was no movement in that house at all.that i could see.when i drove out to lisas i never thought that this is what happened.and i wasnt playin detective it just didnt make any sense why they wasnt answering to me.you know after i found out what had happened i thought the same thing.what if the killer was stilll there.what if he woulda hurt me or killed me also.

Tiffany thank-you for coming on here! Do you think Johnny was very protective of Lisa?

I'm still concerned about whether or not JS was controlling or abusive in nature towards Lisa. Never leaving her side unless she was at work is classic behavior for abusers...tiff...do you know if this is so?

(02-16-2011, 11:59 PM)tiffwill123 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-16-2011, 11:54 PM)doing40^thisyear Wrote: [ -> ]Im not trying to run her off, I am entitled to my opinion..she can stay and tell all her story.. I however questioned it. And by how she gets mad because someone doesnt believe her.... well that speaks volumes, doesnt it.

im not getting mad for someone not believing me.im just letting everyone know i did not get on here to argue with anyone.

Arguing and stating my opinion ..too different things..You just havent convinced me yet, sorry. So my question is, when did you found out they were murdered? Because you said that you left the scene before they were found.

(02-16-2011, 11:58 PM)jash Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:lisa never talked about her ex.she was always with johnny.even if she wanted to she never had the chance to johnny was always by her side unless she was at work

Now this is very interesting. The way you state this infers that JC might have been controlling at best. Did they have a good relationship or was he "controlling" towards her?

no,no,no dont take that in the wrong way.he was good to lisa.never controlling.they had a good relationship

Tiffany would you tell the police if you knew who murdered Johnny and Lisa? Are you fearful for yourself?

(02-16-2011, 11:37 PM)jash Wrote: [ -> ]I think we need to completely seperate Maytee statements from Tiff statements. If you take them together, you comingle, and hence the confusion. Maytee did NOT talk to Johnny so anything she says HE said that night is second, third, or fourth hand at best, and we all know how that goes!

I agree. Am I clear in understanding that Tiff never spoke to Maytee directly until Maytee blocked her car in the driveway? If that's true, Maytee had given a version of events to 911 without speaking to Tiff. All of her info came from either (assuming) her husband's talk with Tiff (he called Tiff; right?) or from Maytee's talk with the girlfriend of JC's best friend, who Tiff called. Maytee was upset at Tiff for waiting to call anyone when according to Tiff, she had no initial cause to be alarmed. Maytee may have given all 3^rd hand info to 911 (a game of telephone tag: Tiff > JC's best friend's girlfriend > Maytee) and it is that version of events that became "the story" in the media.

(02-16-2011, 11:59 PM)tiffwill123 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-16-2011, 11:54 PM)doing40^thisyear Wrote: [ -> ]Im not trying to run her off, I am entitled to my opinion..she can stay and tell all her story.. I however questioned it. And by how she gets mad because someone doesnt believe her.... well that speaks volumes, doesnt it.

im not getting mad for someone not believing me.im just letting everyone know i did not get on here to argue with anyone.

Yeah, I don't see you getting mad! I have no idea where that came from.

Regarding that question about J&S and drugs: I totally understand not sharing that information. People ask about it because they've wondered if the murders were a result of robbery motivated by drugs and/or drug money. On a more personal level, whether J&S got high is irrelevant.

(02-17-2011, 12:03 AM)tiffwill123 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-16-2011, 11:54 PM)RJs-Ex Wrote: [ -> ]TiffWill123 - Wow, I'm impressed that you're on here and answering questions. Hearing your side of the story does make me re-think my opinion of what might've happened to Johnny & Lisa. So, thank you for that.

Do you think the killers were still in the house when you went there the first time and knocked on the door/rang the bell? And what were you thinking - out playing detective and shit when you're pregnant? Who knows what kinda shit you could've walked up on - know what I'm saying? In the future, just keep yourself SAFE first, ok? :-)

i dont think they were there when i went there.there was no movement in that house at all.that i could see.when i drove out to lisas i never thought that this is what happened.and i wasnt playin detective it just didnt make any sense why they wasnt answering to me.you know after i found out what had happened i thought the same thing.what if the killer was stilll there.what if he woulda hurt me or killed me also.

This is very creepy!

(02-17-2011, 12:04 AM)tiffwill123 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-16-2011, 11:58 PM)jash Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:lisa never talked about her ex.she was always with johnny.even if she wanted to she never had the chance to johnny was always by her side unless she was at work

Now this is very interesting. The way you state this infers that JC might have been controlling at best. Did they have a good relationship or was he "controlling" towards her?

no,no,no dont take that in the wrong way.he was good to lisa.never controlling.they had a good relationship

good, that's cleared up! Do you think this may be gang related?

(02-17-2011, 12:04 AM)jash Wrote: [ -> ]I'm still concerned about whether or not JS was controlling or abusive in nature towards Lisa. Never leaving her side unless she was at work is classic behavior for abusers...tiff...do you know if this is so?

johnny was not controlling.they loved eachother ..lisa use to tell me she loved the fact they were always together.she felt close with him.

Quote:no,no,no dont take that in the wrong way.he was good to lisa.never controlling.they had a good relationship

That clears up alot too! Very informative here tonite...very!

Tiff...Howlong had lisa and johnny been together? Was Johnny and lisa trying to turn their lives around?

hello lawheeze, welcome to Mock~~

(02-17-2011, 12:08 AM)jash Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:no,no,no dont take that in the wrong way.he was good to lisa.never controlling.they had a good relationship

That clears up alot too! Very informative here tonite...very!

Tiff...Howlong had lisa and johnny been together? Was Johnny and lisa trying to turn their lives around?

a little over a year.and yes johnny wanted to change his life.thats why he was going to barber school.he said he wanted the best for him and lisa.they wanted to have a baby....

(02-17-2011, 12:05 AM)lawheeze Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-16-2011, 11:37 PM)jash Wrote: [ -> ]I think we need to completely seperate Maytee statements from Tiff statements. If you take them together, you comingle, and hence the confusion. Maytee did NOT talk to Johnny so anything she says HE said that night is second, third, or fourth hand at best, and we all know how that goes!
I agree. Am I clear in understanding that Tiff never spoke to Maytee directly until Maytee blocked her car in the driveway? If that's true, Maytee had given a version of events to 911 without speaking to Tiff. All of her info came from either (assuming) her husband's talk with Tiff (he called Tiff; right?) or from Maytee's talk with the girlfriend of JC's best friend, who Tiff called. Maytee was upset at Tiff for waiting to call anyone when according to Tiff, she had no initial cause to be alarmed. Maytee may have given all 3^rd hand info to 911 (a game of telephone tag: Tiff > JC's best friend's girlfriend > Maytee) and it is that version of events that became "the story" in the media.

that sums it up, for me!

(02-16-2011, 10:50 PM)doing40^thisyear Wrote: [ -> ][quote='pspence' pid='128905' dateline='1297907508']
I am so proud of Tiffany. I knew from the start that she has had nothing to do with this and was just trying to help the whole time. I'm so glad she has come on here to defend herself...she has a good heart.

I know that good heart shows in her rap sheet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i bet half the people on this forum either have a rap sheet and probably have dabled with drugs at some point in their life, or just damn lucky they never got caught...unlike 95% of toledo (kidding)

no seriously, major kuddos to you tiff, who impo happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time...and by joining here tonight defending her truth, is someone i wouldn't mind having my back.

Quote:a little over a year.and yes johnny wanted to change his life.thats why he was going to barber school.he said he wanted the best for him and lisa.they wanted to have a baby....

I did not know they were together over a year. For some reason, I assumed, or it was printed somewhere that it was just a couple of months. Maybe he had just lived there a couple of months?? Did Johnny break his CC cuz he couldn't take living with Maytee? Or because he wanted to be out of the "area"...

Tiff, do know any details about Johnny telling on one of the guys he was involved in the robbery with? Did he rat someone out to get a shorter sentence? If so, is the one he ratted on the guy who's still in prison?

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