(03-12-2011, 03:06 AM)curious Wrote: [ -> ] (03-12-2011, 02:00 AM)onefortheroad Wrote: [ -> ] (03-12-2011, 01:56 AM)Nina Wrote: [ -> ]I waver back and forth on AG being active in it too. But I think he knows who it was and TW was involved. She may not have known they were going to kill them, but she knew something was going to happen that night.
I believe that too.
Same here, and becomming more and more curious about Z's role in it as well.
I'm with you guys (not sure about Z yet)...One thing I feel strongly about is TW is in up to her lying eyeballs in this murder. I'm sure she wasn't tough enough to put the bags over her frenemies heads but she sure played the bait & hook part really good...IMO
an earlier post ""Johnny was a tender hearted guy who was straighted up - thus
the reason for being at the Straubs and choosing to be with a girl
like Lisa. I bet this is far far far more tragic than we ever thought."
I agree...
Totally Curious wrote "If other people post it = either do not read it or ignore it if you do. You started it by the drug rant and you did indeed say you were doing a bunch of drugs and drowning it with booze. Just don't react. You are making yourself look pathetic. "
I disagree totally...JsMom was trying to be human and reach out to Maytee by making a joke...sit down and talk with us with whatever relaxes you...a beer...a joint...or in my case a diet pepsi...you are not making yourself look pathetic at all - just sticking up for yourself...but try not to get pulled in...she is just so badly hurting...my heart breaks for her...
Wow Nina. Your post blew me away...
Balls of fire! I like reading all the FB posts, they are very entertaining. Bring back the FB drama.
Curious: I just read the possible copy cat murder/robbery of the Texas robbery...so creepy...
I know I have changed my mind a thousand times about this case but after reading so many of the insightful posts...I'm about convinced that:
this was merely a robbery that escalated and got out of hand - by people Johnny thought were his friends....they didn't think J/L would be home at that time....it got ugly really quickly...Johnny so strong and trying to protect his girlfriend and her parents home that he felt responsible for...started shouting and defending ...Johnny probably while defending his turf and aghast at what these people were doing that he thought were his friends started shouting things about them that pisst them off and hence the murders ...
this could be my "final answer" until the arrests...
any thoughts out there?
On Facebook Maytees post:
A sincere thanks to wolf on the mock forum for your choice of words adressing our families and our kids johnny and lisa their siblings my husband and i and the straub family you truly have our respect unlike many others that just want to attack gossip and speculate and lie about things and situations they are truly clueless about. Thank you again god bless
Let's be real...if this had happened to one of our children it would hurt to read all of our theories on here (a hit because he owed $, was a drug dealer, a snitch, etc.)...I have a feeling Maytee knows from the LE that this was a robbery gone bad...those poor precious kids just happened to be home when the people who pretended to be his friends - were probably there the night before when the neighbors said there was a party and casing out the place...
Yep Duchess and Lady Cop...I betcha you both have been right all along...
off-topic~~
HAPPY BIRTHDAY ADUB AND CONCERNED~~
(03-12-2011, 03:06 AM)curious Wrote: [ -> ] (03-12-2011, 02:00 AM)onefortheroad Wrote: [ -> ] (03-12-2011, 01:56 AM)Nina Wrote: [ -> ]I waver back and forth on AG being active in it too. But I think he knows who it was and TW was involved. She may not have known they were going to kill them, but she knew something was going to happen that night.
I believe that too.
Same here, and becomming more and more curious about Z's role in it as well.
If Tiff was involved, I think Z was there too, and Tiff was using his phone that night so I assume they were together. I could kind of understand someone young like him panicking and using plastic bags when things got out of hand, but he still would have needed someone bigger, stronger, tougher, to subdue them. I also remember what (Unknown, I think?) said earlier about Z suffering from withdrawal that day, and considering his age and condition I could see him being there as an extra if he was told he'd be paid for it (money/drugs).
Z also provided the car as well as a phone.
(03-12-2011, 06:20 AM)pspence Wrote: [ -> ]Curious: I just read the possible copy cat murder/robbery of the Texas robbery...so creepy...
I know I have changed my mind a thousand times about this case but after reading so many of the insightful posts...I'm about convinced that:
this could be my "final answer" until the arrests...
any thoughts out there?
Up until just recently, I felt it was more of a statement killing resulting from owing someone a lot of money from a drug deal gone bad and it wasn't done by anyone that's been discussed here.
Now I'm beginning to think differently and leaning more toward your theory...and not b/c of FB which only gives me a headache, but rather by simply following this thread and a little deductive reasoning.
Let me ask this, if it was unplanned, were the items used already in the home or brought in by the perps? If brought in by perps and it was unplanned, did they happen to have in their vehicle, or just leave and go by them? This part I'm struggling with...