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I don't think it's cowardly AT ALL to put bind someone up, put a bag over someone's head and suffocate them.
especially if you knew them...or even semi knew them.

to me it's about as anti-social psychotic as it comes. it screams of sociopath!
(03-28-2011, 06:28 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote: [ -> ]I dunno about the coward thing when it comes to putting a bag over someones head. I mean is shooting someone less cowardly? You can shoot someone from a distance but to bind & suffocate someone is up close & personal. To me that seems less cowardly but that's only my opinion. Just wondering, why is it deamed cowardly to suffocate someone? Is it the fact that you aren't looking at someone in the eyes as you kill them or?

Maybe AP thinks real men aren't sadists. Dunno. Somebody needs killing you shoot 'em.

*shrugs*
(03-28-2011, 06:39 PM)fabulous Wrote: [ -> ]to me it's about as anti-social psychotic as it comes. it screams of sociopath!

Pretty much what I was thinking also Fab
(03-28-2011, 06:44 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-28-2011, 06:39 PM)fabulous Wrote: [ -> ]to me it's about as anti-social psychotic as it comes. it screams of sociopath!

Pretty much what I was thinking also Fab

Anyone that would kill someone period is a psychopath/sociopath no matter the method! (N my I's) Just sick and deranged you could hate someone so much over words, drugs, territory, anything of that such. What a life! Smiley_emoticons_fies
I don't think the point was about being a coward. But rather how this crime ended in murder.

This case is not even two months old. Let LE do their job.....SOLVED AND SENTENCED TO THE DEATH PENALTY !!!!
I wonder if it is the little gangsters as I suspect. When they go to pick the jurors do you think they will send out jury duty papers to the Bloods or the Crips. It does have to be a jury of their peers. LMFAO!!! Oh shit they would go free then.Insane
I think the problem may lie with Folk Nation. And the eight ball.
(03-28-2011, 03:00 PM)shitstorm Wrote: [ -> ]...... Would he kill people by putting bags over their heads? He says no and that may be right. He seemed disgusted with that manner of murder and called it cowardly. After reading all that I think if he had a grievance with someone he'd shoot them.

Wow!!! Is that is the "moral high ground'.....??
(03-28-2011, 03:36 PM)heartbreaker6713 Wrote: [ -> ]DNA can take longer in some cases than others depending on many factors. If there was a party the night before or a couple nights before there may be many different sets of finger prints to seperate and eliminate. You also have to remember if they are lifting every single finger print they have to scan those and run them and identify each and every one of them. yes it's computerized but there is a human element there. This takes time. With any blood dna, if it becomes combined with someone elses that becomes a factor. There are so many things that come into play. Then on top of that, IF it doesn't match anyone in the system it's going to sit there and for the time it's not going to mean anything until it MATCHES someone. it's like a huge piece of the puzzle that doesn't have a place to fit yet. Some other cases are way easier for DNA to come back quicker.

I am afraid the only DNA is that of LS when she was bleeding in the hallways. My feeling is the promise of the DNA collected by LE helping in this case is over rated and may may yeild nothing. -IMO-
(03-28-2011, 08:04 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote: [ -> ]Wow!!! Is that is the "moral high ground'.....??

Cheers pretty sad eh?
(03-28-2011, 08:10 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-28-2011, 03:36 PM)heartbreaker6713 Wrote: [ -> ]DNA can take longer in some cases than others depending on many factors. If there was a party the night before or a couple nights before there may be many different sets of finger prints to seperate and eliminate. You also have to remember if they are lifting every single finger print they have to scan those and run them and identify each and every one of them. yes it's computerized but there is a human element there. This takes time. With any blood dna, if it becomes combined with someone elses that becomes a factor. There are so many things that come into play. Then on top of that, IF it doesn't match anyone in the system it's going to sit there and for the time it's not going to mean anything until it MATCHES someone. it's like a huge piece of the puzzle that doesn't have a place to fit yet. Some other cases are way easier for DNA to come back quicker.

I am afraid the only DNA is that of LS when she was bleeding in the hallways. My feeling is the promise of the DNA collected by LE helping in this case is over rated and may may yeild nothing. -IMO-

Hallway? Blood? Lisa? Did i miss something?

(03-28-2011, 08:13 PM)Adub Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-28-2011, 08:10 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-28-2011, 03:36 PM)heartbreaker6713 Wrote: [ -> ]DNA can take longer in some cases than others depending on many factors. If there was a party the night before or a couple nights before there may be many different sets of finger prints to seperate and eliminate. You also have to remember if they are lifting every single finger print they have to scan those and run them and identify each and every one of them. yes it's computerized but there is a human element there. This takes time. With any blood dna, if it becomes combined with someone elses that becomes a factor. There are so many things that come into play. Then on top of that, IF it doesn't match anyone in the system it's going to sit there and for the time it's not going to mean anything until it MATCHES someone. it's like a huge piece of the puzzle that doesn't have a place to fit yet. Some other cases are way easier for DNA to come back quicker.

I am afraid the only DNA is that of LS when she was bleeding in the hallways. My feeling is the promise of the DNA collected by LE helping in this case is over rated and may may yeild nothing. -IMO-

Hallway? Blood? Lisa? Did i miss something?

LS is the only one who has been confirmed as 'bloody'. My feeing and MHO is that hers may be the only blood at the crime seen and in that case the promise that DNA can solve this is misplaced.
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You petty ass pathetic fools poor excuses for human life the second your skumbag hoe led your low life pathetic goon crew out there to rob johnny n lisa and hurt them you all signed your death sentence you all might be laughin now but wait till you all get arrested you sick evil snitching cowards your all gonna cry bloody tears and you got the oddassity to get tattoos on you about snitchin you coward you been snitchin since you was fifteen wow cnt wait to see you all dead fry rottin in hell
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Noone got away bitches god law enforcement n the streets make sure of that... Thats y ypu all over there shaking scared everytime you lames are called into crimestopper trust n believe your walking death hoes
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All your deaths are going to taste like sweet victory to our society please do us all a favor and kill yourselves cus your all dead already anyways DEATH sentence n hell awaits ypu evil demons
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I have a flashback to Maytee and Lisa's Liar Uncle - she called him a Liar she mentioned how we wouldn't believe the letter she received from him or maybe it was a card, anyway I've been thinking on and off about that statement - my opinion is, the decent thing for the man to do would be send a note - just stating "Sorry for your Loss" - it sure doesn't sound like it, and Maytee apparently was upset with this note, it hurt the woman I think , just like the Police Station episode and his uncalled for remarks. Anyone else been wondering like me? I Pray for Maytee, LE will get the beast/s.
(03-28-2011, 08:04 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-28-2011, 03:00 PM)shitstorm Wrote: [ -> ]...... Would he kill people by putting bags over their heads? He says no and that may be right. He seemed disgusted with that manner of murder and called it cowardly. After reading all that I think if he had a grievance with someone he'd shoot them.

Wow!!! Is that is the "moral high ground'.....??

What do you think? I said I think a gun would probably be his chosen method of killing someone.
Based upon these comments, from the exchange with Maytee, I think if AP killed someone he would use a gun.



AG n do u hear urself....keywords "when u heard from a lot of sources" thats where ur wrong ... i dont even fuck wit none of these fuck niggaz n bitches out here so where the fuck would u hear that from....and i promise u i would never have to take some1s life to get what i want...them 2 did not deserve that at all...


AG N THATS REAL...whoever did that to them was a coward....to put a bag over some1s head instead of physically killin them ...that is the definition of a spineless coward...and i promise u i dont fit in that category at all


AG and i swear to u i prayed for lacey the other night and as much as i dont wanna say it i even prayed for ur family even thought i hate u simply because u continue to throw dirt on me and my gurls name....ive never did anything wrong to u or ur family and i pray that justice does prevail so u and all ur followers can quit making such ridiculous assumptions..,....and whoever did this i truly hope does get the death penalty as u wish because that was some coward azz shit they did to those two

AG n i promise u i never hated johnny or lisa....neither of them were a threat to me in any way.....perioddddddd wit ur cheese eatin azz



Edit to add: You notice he said "Lacey". Sounds like he didn't know Lisa much.
(03-28-2011, 09:31 PM)shitstorm Wrote: [ -> ]Based upon these comments, from the exchange with Maytee, I think if AP killed someone he would use a gun.

Do you really think AP would say EVER that he would use a bag?
(03-28-2011, 08:10 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-28-2011, 03:36 PM)heartbreaker6713 Wrote: [ -> ]DNA can take longer in some cases than others depending on many factors. If there was a party the night before or a couple nights before there may be many different sets of finger prints to seperate and eliminate. You also have to remember if they are lifting every single finger print they have to scan those and run them and identify each and every one of them. yes it's computerized but there is a human element there. This takes time. With any blood dna, if it becomes combined with someone elses that becomes a factor. There are so many things that come into play. Then on top of that, IF it doesn't match anyone in the system it's going to sit there and for the time it's not going to mean anything until it MATCHES someone. it's like a huge piece of the puzzle that doesn't have a place to fit yet. Some other cases are way easier for DNA to come back quicker.

I am afraid the only DNA is that of LS when she was bleeding in the hallways. My feeling is the promise of the DNA collected by LE helping in this case is over rated and may may yeild nothing. -IMO-

That may be. this was just in response to someone stating that they felt the DNA should be back because of other cases in their area that had DNA come back already. We have no idea of what real DNA is there because LE isn't releasing any details. Someone stated that there looks like a fight or struggle took place in the kitchen area, that would lead me to believe there would be something there. You don't usually get into a struggle without flaking off sometime of skin cells or hair i'd think. I know i shed hair like crazy. But I don't know just my thinking.
(03-28-2011, 09:31 PM)shitstorm Wrote: [ -> ]Edit to add: You notice he said "Lacey". Sounds like he didn't know Lisa much.

I believe Lacey is JC's cousin
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