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Out my window of course.... LMFAO ... Nice to see some laughs!
(02-25-2011, 08:40 PM)Red_velvet71 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-25-2011, 08:36 PM)NightOwl Wrote: [ -> ]Someone on Mock wondered what the tatoo said on Lisa's wrist - I tried to zoom in and it looks like it could be "Happiness"

Heres a link to the photograph - I tried to post direct but alas, no luck! http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1...81&theater


I think you're right, looks like the word 'happiness' to me too.

yeah, that's what it looks like to me tooSigns_173

I have a question about the 911 Calls. Did Johnny's father also call 911?
The following from CNN does not quite make sense to me. The
male says someone is tied with a towel and at the same time says
he ripped the bag off his head. Were towels involved or is this
an inaccurate transcript? Anyone know?

Would Johnny's dad say "We can see the people?" Were both
male and female on the same cell?

Or is this some sort of creative editing by CNN?

Copied from CNN......
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You need to get the police out to Longacre Lane! My son is in the basement, tied up with a towel (ph). I just saw him through the window. The police were (EXPLETIVE DELETED) earlier and did absolutely nothing!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I ripped off the bag off my son`s head.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (INAUDIBLE) both of them tied up (INAUDIBLE) bags on their heads!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And went to her and did the same.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Both cell phones are on the ground, and we can see the people. Him and his girlfriend are tied up in the basement!

(02-25-2011, 08:38 PM)shitstorm Wrote: [ -> ]TotallyCurious -

The story about your daughter is horrifying. You are right. Random acts of violence take place. People have regrets over things they should not, too (like sending a kid to college or buying a certain house). If only, if only, if only ....

yes, the saying "shit happens" ?? I think it just really does sometimes, ugh..

(02-25-2011, 07:17 PM)Methusala Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-25-2011, 06:39 PM)concerned Wrote: [ -> ]For all posting that Toledo is a "shithole" and such. I am curious to know where your city is that has no crime or druguser gang members and so forth. Toledo is a city that was once prosperous and people could make a decent living and raise a family in a nice middle class home but unfortunatly alot of the good factory jobs closed down and the businesses that relied on the factories all the way down the line.... It could happen to any city and is happening to alot of cities all over the US as I type this. I went to Toledo Public Schools and had a good education. A nice house with working parents. I took advantage of the education that was put in front of me.

Me too. I have wonderful loving memories of my Toledo public grade school, the no-nonsense but warm-hearted teachers and principal, my playmates on the street and their hard-working parents, my own hard-working and loving parents, etc.

We walked to grade school and high school. The high school population was 13 Afro-American and 23 Caucasian. We were all close and knew each other.

I grew up in the old west end on a street where the horse-chestnut trees lined the curb and the bus came right down the street every eleven minutes. We didn't
know it at the time but it was heaven. It was a couple blocks from Rosary Cathedral. I was not Catholic and the neighborhood was a mix of religions and ethnic backgrounds.

We used to walk home from movies downtown, in the dark, at midnight as teenagers, so that we could instead spend the 17 cents on candy.

Our only fear was that an older kid might jump out from behind a tree some of the time to tease us.

Murders were rare and when they occurred they were front page news in the Blade from the day the body was discovered, through the arrest, the trial, the
conviction and the execution.

Great, we all grew up differently than now-a-days....BUT DID U NOT GET THE MEMO...this us an example...DON'T QUOTE 500 WORDS, IT'S NOT THAT DIFFICULT!!!!!

(02-25-2011, 09:20 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: [ -> ]I have a question about the 911 Calls. Did Johnny's father also call 911?
The following from CNN does not quite make sense to me. The
male says someone is tied with a towel and at the same time says
he ripped the bag off his head. Were towels involved or is this
an inaccurate transcript? Anyone know?

Would Johnny's dad say "We can see the people?" Were both
male and female on the same cell?

Or is this some sort of creative editing by CNN?

Copied from CNN......
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You need to get the police out to Longacre Lane! My son is in the basement, tied up with a towel (ph). I just saw him through the window. The police were (EXPLETIVE DELETED) earlier and did absolutely nothing!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I ripped off the bag off my son`s head.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (INAUDIBLE) both of them tied up (INAUDIBLE) bags on their heads!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And went to her and did the same.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Both cell phones are on the ground, and we can see the people. Him and his girlfriend are tied up in the basement!

I believe that's correct, however I've had trouble finding that 911 call for awhile .. I heard it, early on, though. Does anyone have the link to it? I don't THINK it's included with the 'links thread' ... I looked the other night

They are weeding out those that have gang related tatts [/quote]

how long ago was this?

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Great, we all grew up differently than now-a-days....BUT DID U NOT GET THE MEMO...this us an example...DON'T QUOTE 5000 WORDS, IT'S NOT THAT DIFFICULT!!!!!


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Are u saying that he wrote too much? I think they mean delete whate u dont need. We are still allowed to make a post as long as we want.

Great, we all grew up differently than now-a-days....BUT DID U NOT GET THE MEMO...this us an example...DON'T QUOTE 5000 WORDS, IT'S NOT THAT DIFFICULT!!!!!


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Are u saying that he wrote too much? I think they mean delete whate u dont need. We are still allowed to make a post as long as we want.
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Hence the word example....

(02-25-2011, 09:22 PM)curious Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-25-2011, 07:17 PM)Methusala Wrote: [ -> ][quote='concerned' pid='135807' dateline='1298673565']
For all posting that Toledo is a "shithole" and such. I am curious to know where your city is that has no crime or druguser gang members and so forth ~snipped ~

~snipped~ BUT DID U NOT GET THE MEMO...this us an example...DON'T QUOTE 5000 WORDS, IT'S NOT THAT DIFFICULT!!!!!

Great example! fantastic! thank you! But I don't think we really needed an example of what not to do, rofl.

I'm from Fresno, CA. I will not judge Toledo.



(02-25-2011, 08:31 PM)jenjen Wrote: [ -> ]There was this amazing theater with real box seats where we
went on special dates. Valentine? Not sure.

Yes, you're right it was the Valentine.
Remember Dyers (I think that was the name) the seafood resturant with live lobsters in the front window? They were right by the Valentine.

I remember both of those places and Tiedtke's.Awink
(02-25-2011, 09:27 PM)curious Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-25-2011, 09:26 PM)kitty1 Wrote: [ -> ]

Great, we all grew up differently than now-a-days....BUT DID U NOT GET THE MEMO...this us an example...DON'T QUOTE 5000 WORDS, IT'S NOT THAT DIFFICULT!!!!!

Are u saying that he wrote too much? I think they mean delete whate u dont need. We are still allowed to make a post as long as we want.
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Hence the word example....

Congratulations on your promotion to Moderator. Oh wait, never mind ...



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Another Question.
In the last couple of days one person has posted that he/she
has close contacts with the LE and Lisa was treated worse than
previously mentioned.

How can that be true if the:

"Lucas County Coroner James Patrick said autopsies performed Tuesday showed that both Ms. Straub and Mr. Clarke died from asphyxiation. They had injuries to their necks but no other significant marks, he said."

THE TWO STORIES DO NOT COMPUTE.
WHO ARE WE TO BELIEVE? THE CORONER OR A POSTER HERE?
Red_Velvet & Jane we are in agreement!
(02-25-2011, 09:27 PM)curious Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-25-2011, 09:26 PM)kitty1 Wrote: [ -> ]

Great, we all grew up differently than now-a-days....BUT DID U NOT GET THE MEMO...this us an example...DON'T QUOTE 5000 WORDS, IT'S NOT THAT DIFFICULT!!!!!

Are u saying that he wrote too much? I think they mean delete whate u dont need. We are still allowed to make a post as long as we want.
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Hence the word example....

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Maybe I should explain myself better, obviously you can write a post that's 559 pages if you so choose, my point is the when you quote, it will show to whom your referencing...SO if you need to go back and recount what was said, simply click on the user name to which the new post is referring too...make sense??

Quiet everyone I want to watch the kitty cat fight.
(02-25-2011, 09:35 PM)wanttoknow Wrote: [ -> ]Quiet everyone I want to watch the kitty cat fight.

I'm not declawed Smiley_emoticons_wink
(02-25-2011, 09:34 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: [ -> ]Another Question.
In the last couple of days one person has posted that he/she
has close contacts with the LE and Lisa was treated worse than
previously mentioned.

How can that be true if the:

"Lucas County Coroner James Patrick said autopsies performed Tuesday showed that both Ms. Straub and Mr. Clarke died from asphyxiation. They had injuries to their necks but no other significant marks, he said."

THE TWO STORIES DO NOT COMPUTE.
WHO ARE WE TO BELIEVE? THE CORONER OR A POSTER HERE?

i am NOT discrediting anyone who said things here that they heard. but remember, everything is second and third-hand unless it's from LE.

Finally caught up again...from the looks of some of the older pics that have been posted I'd almost say that Lisa was introduced to the "southend crew" through her sisters boyfriend, who (imo) looked kinda thuggish too. From my experience growing up, the kids in Springfield were kind of like gangsta lite and they probably thought it was cool to hang out with "real" gangstas.
(02-25-2011, 09:34 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: [ -> ]Another Question.
In the last couple of days one person has posted that he/she
has close contacts with the LE and Lisa was treated worse than
previously mentioned.

How can that be true if the:

"Lucas County Coroner James Patrick said autopsies performed Tuesday showed that both Ms. Straub and Mr. Clarke died from asphyxiation. They had injuries to their necks but no other significant marks, he said."

THE TWO STORIES DO NOT COMPUTE.
WHO ARE WE TO BELIEVE? THE CORONER OR A POSTER HERE?

I'm just biding my time on all that myself. The same with 'blood all over the place'. But, I do tend to go with the quote from the coroner. But then the MSM sucks so who knows.
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