I think the only other post I can remember that had this much interest was the Jon Bonet Ramsey case but wasn't on a website as cool as "Mock".
(02-24-2011, 11:17 PM)kitty1 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-24-2011, 10:12 PM)dontbedumb Wrote: [ -> ] (02-24-2011, 06:58 PM)Snoopy Wrote: [ -> ] (02-24-2011, 02:46 PM)DCTim Wrote: [ -> ]I learned from a VERY reliable source today that LE knows who the perps were. Suffice to say that some of the recent contributors here were right on the mark.
I think what they're waiting for is DNA evidence to be returned before any arrests are made.
Sadly, what we have heard about LS being tortured is evidently correct. Worse than we've read here I'm told.
With that being said, what time frame are we looking at for DNA results? I know that some testing takes longer than others, but its been nearly a month- do you have any idea, how much longer it may be?
I was wondering the same thing. How long for DNA to come back? Does Ohio have it to where if you where ever convicted of a felony charge that you had to submit your DNA????? I know thats what happens in my state.
no Ohio doesn't do that. sorry if this has already been answered. i am behind
oops! I forgot that the person I'm thinking of never actually was convicted but got something in leu of conviction.
(02-25-2011, 12:06 AM)pspence Wrote: [ -> ]what does M*P*Y* mean??????
As if this wasn't horrific enough from the beginning, the confirmation of torture makes it even worse. For some reason, my first thought when I read that was M*P*Y - this was the work of a special type of sadist and quite likely someone who's used to this type of brutality. I'd put my money on him and AP, and TW up to her neck with the setup and the alibi after.
PS didn't you back in post #3207 defend TW. I read on another site you post on that you became friendly with her. May I be so forward as to ask what made you change your mind.
(02-25-2011, 12:06 AM)pspence Wrote: [ -> ]what does M*P*Y* mean??????
As if this wasn't horrific enough from the beginning, the confirmation of torture makes it even worse. For some reason, my first thought when I read that was M*P*Y - this was the work of a special type of sadist and quite likely someone who's used to this type of brutality. I'd put my money on him and AP, and TW up to her neck with the setup and the alibi after.
M'P'Y is one of the dirtbags in Tiffany's cesspool. A friend of her boyfriend, AP. An Iraqi vet who said he loved being able to kill legally.
(02-25-2011, 12:21 AM)wanttoknow Wrote: [ -> ] (02-25-2011, 12:06 AM)pspence Wrote: [ -> ]what does M*P*Y* mean??????
As if this wasn't horrific enough from the beginning, the confirmation of torture makes it even worse. For some reason, my first thought when I read that was M*P*Y - this was the work of a special type of sadist and quite likely someone who's used to this type of brutality. I'd put my money on him and AP, and TW up to her neck with the setup and the alibi after.
PS didn't you back in post #3207 defend TW. I read on another site you post on that you became friendly with her. May I be so forward as to ask what made you change your mind.
pspence was quoting onefortheroad but didn't use the quote function.
Those were such interesting remarks about Maytee saying "she's in the military" when talking about her cousin to the 911 operator...I do think too it was probably saying "take me seriously"...and the number on the key for LE to be that specific...you always hear they want to keep things close to their vest with info only the killers would know...there just has to be some reason...
If this happened because JC "owed some $"...geesh...I can't even imagine how much it must have been...it also must have been some gang turf violation...
A lot of people have said "how can LS' parents have let JC live there..."
My aunt and uncle's teenage daughter when a senior in H.S. came home with this LOOSER guy... (uncle was a big shot in the CIA in Washington) anyway...they didn't know what to do but finally let him move in (he was virtually homeless and dumb - I don't mean to be mean but he wasn't very bright)...anyway...they prayed and showed their love to him and eventually their daughter saw the light and didn't resent her parents...she went to college - today is a happily mrd school teacher ...their "plan" worked...I'm sure that's what Lisa's parents plan was...to keep her close and help JC as much as they could...they were probably shocked to hear they were still using drugs but ...just all such a shame...and my heart breaks for Maytee too...they loved their son just as much as we all love our kids...just different cultures...
(02-25-2011, 12:21 AM)wanttoknow Wrote: [ -> ] (02-25-2011, 12:06 AM)pspence Wrote: [ -> ]what does M*P*Y* mean??????
As if this wasn't horrific enough from the beginning, the confirmation of torture makes it even worse. For some reason, my first thought when I read that was M*P*Y - this was the work of a special type of sadist and quite likely someone who's used to this type of brutality. I'd put my money on him and AP, and TW up to her neck with the setup and the alibi after.
PS didn't you back in post #3207 defend TW. I read on another site you post on that you became friendly with her. May I be so forward as to ask what made you change your mind.
LOL sometimes I forget that I can be forward here & drop the bullshit. Although I do agree with alot of pspences post, I did think the same thing. I can't see how anyone could see TW's innocense in this honestly.
I haven't changed my mind...(about Tiffany - I still don't think she had anything to do with it) sorry...i must have done the reply button wrong...I cut and pasted the quote someone else had written about M*P*Y* to put in the context how it was referenced and I was trying to figure out what those initials stood for
Ok DCTim...I need to get some sleep...I usually go to bed at 9:00pm...have a stressful job ...need my sleep...can't you give us a HINT??????
(02-25-2011, 12:31 AM)pspence Wrote: [ -> ]Ok DCTim...I need to get some sleep...I usually go to bed at 9:00pm...have a stressful job ...need my sleep...can't you give us a HINT??????
Does the animal have blonde hair?
(02-25-2011, 12:01 AM)pspence Wrote: [ -> ]I do have to take issue to all of those who are judgemental about how anyone's kids turn out...
p, with all due respect, this is a whole other strata we're discussing. I did drugs. Smoked weed and hash, dropped acid, ate mescaline, and was a peace loving, war protesting, hippie. These people are gansters, p. I don't know if you've bothered examining their pictures. Tattoos, guns, huge stacks of money, gang signs. Their "writings" talk about beating people up, killing people, and other psychotic pass times. I don't know what your relationship to Tiffany is. Perhaps you know all this. If so, do not minimize it. This is the worst criminal element in America. The ones who end up filling up prisons. Some of them murdered Johnny & Lisa. They are psychopaths.
(02-25-2011, 12:25 AM)Freshbait78 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-25-2011, 12:21 AM)wanttoknow Wrote: [ -> ] (02-25-2011, 12:06 AM)pspence Wrote: [ -> ]what does M*P*Y* mean??????
As if this wasn't horrific enough from the beginning, the confirmation of torture makes it even worse. For some reason, my first thought when I read that was M*P*Y - this was the work of a special type of sadist and quite likely someone who's used to this type of brutality. I'd put my money on him and AP, and TW up to her neck with the setup and the alibi after.
PS didn't you back in post #3207 defend TW. I read on another site you post on that you became friendly with her. May I be so forward as to ask what made you change your mind.
LOL sometimes I forget that I can be forward here & drop the bullshit. Although I do agree with alot of pspences post, I did think the same thing. I can't see how anyone could see TW's innocense in this honestly.
me too she is involved in some way imo...as well as minor z and ap
OMG...just hit me the Jon Bonet Ramsey case is still not solved after all these years...surely SURELY we will have closure on this case...I do have major compassion for Maytee and his father...with that being said though and listening to those 911 calls ...her mother's gut knew the sh*t her son was into was some pretty heavy stuff going on ...my 3 partied and drove us nuts but I don't think all of those things (were they abducted, could be dead in the house, etc) would have occured to me in the same circumstances...maybe I'm wrong as no one knows for sure unless they're in that situation...
You're right...very scary stuff...I am a little bit of an incurable optimist that hoped all of this "gang" stuff wasn't as horrible as it appeared and that most of them were just "playing around with it"...and that the ones that hurt Lisa and Johnny were just really rare psychopaths...but i "get" what you're saying...I'm feeling so sad because I know what you say is true...
(02-25-2011, 12:39 AM)pspence Wrote: [ -> ]You're right...very scary stuff...I am a little bit of an incurable optimist that hoped all of this "gang" stuff wasn't as horrible as it appeared and that most of them were just "playing around with it"...and that the ones that hurt Lisa and Johnny were just really rare psychopaths...but i "get" what you're saying...I'm feeling so sad because I know what you say is true...
You sound like a very nice person who wants to think the best of everyone. I understand that. Unfortunately, there really is a very dangerous, psychopathic element on America's streets. They can't be loved out of it. Sociopaths/psychopaths are NOT curable.
A gut feeling is when you don't know why your feeling it. If my child ran out into a busy street, and got hit by a car. I wouldn't say I had a gut feeling that would happen if you did that. I would say you dumbass.
This new info from DC Tim has really brought reality back into all this...that poor girl, I have a 20 yr old daughter and my heart just breaks thinking about everything Lisa had to endure, for what?? Drugs, money, revenge, hanging out with the wrong crowd, having a boyfriend with a shaded past...just is so so sad. As much as I hate to even think it, I would prefer to find out it was some "mafia" or "hitman" type because the thought of another young kid doing somthing so awful to a friend or friend of friend for these stupid reasons just makes me sick ,sick to know there are people out there in your neighborhood that could so easily do somthing so horrific.
Good night all...be thankful for everything you have. Hope better news comes tomorrow